🤯 Raider IO ruined PVE

[Kem-bleeding-hollow]

I could app to any guild I want on MG, or ZG. I have friends who raid there and could easily get me 9/9M in a few weeks from now, but I don’t want to raid 4-5 days a week anymore.

[Turnberry-illidan (Turnberry)]

I raid 5 hours a week and my rankings are better than yours this expansion lol.

[Kem-bleeding-hollow]

I’m chill, but when 5 people are attacking you over the course of 2 hours in a thread, I start dropping nukes. Idc.

[Kem-bleeding-hollow]

You play prot paladin, you aren’t even a dps, let alone a warlock.

[Turnberry-illidan (Turnberry)]

Oh so you’re allowed to compare us but I am not, gotcha

I’m still towering over you.

[Meritha-thrall (Meritha)]

Guilds that killed Archimonde early on: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/8#region=2&bracket=4&boss=1799

Ilvl 691-693 (this isn’t even the lowest that was done… just most of these killed it before you did)

Your ilvl at the time of your parse: 743

Tell me again how your ilvl was the same as the people killing Archi early on in the tier.

[Gdtroll-illidan (Gdtroll)]

Dude you ain’t having trouble getting into 10s because of some meta crap. You aren’t getting in because you are lazy and entitled.

^ This is the main issue with raider io whiners

[Kem-bleeding-hollow]

You said parsed not killed, you’re just making stuff up.

[Cicera-zuljin]

Haha, yes, let’s make fun of someone for being “bad” because they don’t have the time of day to actually commit more than five hours a day to raiding or gearing.

People have lives, and he’s just showing his opinion – and the perspective of a casual player.

I lack sympathy for this type of thinking. You cannot create all content for all players. There has to be some form of content for people who play more and are more dedicated.

I will reiterate what I said earlier in this thread. NOT ALL CONTENT HAS TO BE CREATED FOR EVERYONE. I honestly don’t care if joe casual ever steps foot into M+ because his time is too limited. There are options for him. Normal, heroic, and heck, even M0.

He’s not ‘missing out’ on the content, he can legit see it all, with the time he has, and on the level his time permits him to play at. Wanting admission into the harder/challenging parts of the game, but not wanting to put the time or effort required to do so is ludicrous and illogical.

[Cornstalker-trollbane (Cornstalker)]

I don’t care even a little bit about M+ since my class can’t flex in them.

Or you’re just making excuses and not wanting to learn the dungeons. Warlocks come to M+ all the time and do fine for us.

[Meritha-thrall (Meritha)]

So you are counting parses where you did not actually kill a boss?

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I am officially dead.

[Vhye-area-52 (Vhye)]

With gear scaling and rewards totally broken, ilvl hasn’t been sufficient as a metric for quite some time. You can easily find high ilvl people who are absolutely terrible at the game. Rio is the evolution of that fact.

[Cornstalker-trollbane (Cornstalker)]

So you are counting parses where you did not actually kill a boss?

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I am officially dead.

he’s prob the kind of player that stands in the bad then blames the healers rofl

[Kem-bleeding-hollow]

No you idiot. We killed the boss with low ilvl too, but the high parses all happened at high ilvl. Jesus dude give it a break you’re so dumb I can’t anymore.

[Meritha-thrall (Meritha)]

We had a Warlock in our raid group that would unload during hero (I was alliance back then!) then die, then come back and get heroed again for parsing shenaningans.

[Zootzoot-kaelthas (Zootzoot)]

Raider IO is the price we pay for Heroic Raid gear falling from the sky.

If anyone can get 400 gear from Warfronts, World Bosses, Mythic Loot Chests, etc AND that 400 gear can Warforge higher then iLevel becomes a meaningless stat.

[Turnberry-illidan (Turnberry)]

I’m chill, but when 5 people are attacking you over the course of 2 hours in a thread, I start dropping nukes. Idc.

You realize nobody would say anything to you but you came in here talking down to people saying you were a top 10 world warlock in WoD. Then we found out you are just a slightly better than average lock, but you keep doubling down lol. You have 2 cutting edge achievements out of the last 9 raid tiers but you hold them over everyone like they should bow down to you ha.

If you’re chill then actually be chill and don’t talk down to people and flaunt fake accolades.

[Dwhaviel-sargeras]

3d sarth 10 man before ulduar
Undying before ulduar
Sorry bro you aren’t all that amazing and special if we want to talk about old crap.

[Meritha-thrall (Meritha)]

Make up your mind darling.

Either your 116 rank that you are waving around proves nothing… or all we have to go by is claims. I can say I was rank 15 when I killed Heroic Garrosh, but that doesn’t make it truth.

I have something to go check on though… so carry on.

[Gdtroll-illidan (Gdtroll)]

Honestly I’m surprised Blizzard hasn’t just implemented their own “built in” version of raider io into the game. A “built in” raider io-type score would probably put a lot of these complain threads to rest

They did the same thing with gearscore/iLvL back in the day, and I don’t see casuals complaining about iLvL on the forums

There’s countless raider io whine threads, on the other hand… they’re a dime a dozen