Your âsourcesâ are youtubers, which is a /lol on itâs own. You also should have known exactly what is happening and how it actually is, before freaking out on the forum and attacking people.
There is no timer.
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For all you nay sayers concerning lust and cooldowns. This alpha tester even stayed he/she doesnt even use or need lust until bosses, like I said, the powerups are more than enough to get you through.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/torghast-feedback-thread/526859/3
I only know what Iâve seen in alpha footage.
I donât think there is any amount of tuning that can be done to torments to make them not a time limit. Full stop.
Some of the torments, such as the fire damage every 5 seconds, seem just brutal and far more appropriate as a Mythic+ Affix.
I think torments, if they are going to be included should be optional.
Not in a mythic+ get better / more loot way either.
I think having a Torment should be a way of helping reduce the RNG of what loot you get.
For instance, if you specifically have torment X active on Floors Y to Z, you are guaranteed to get a specific set of secondary stats on any item drops, or a particular trinket is guaranteed to drop.
Something like that.
Make them optional and ways of increasing difficulty to reduce RNG on any obtained loot.
Otherwise, absolutely no time limits. Of any kind. If you donât like people waiting on using drums / bloodlust, then simply do not let those spells activate in Torgast at all or cap the number of uses per floor and / or run.
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People using the flag button as a downvote button what a shock. Stop whining about timers. Thereâs a reason that theyâre being put in.
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Yeah, I was like wtf when I saw I got flagged, but hey, nothing came of it.
Then I noticed the post it was from.
Just proved my point really, the brigade of mass posts are all created by unreasonable people.
Youâre supposed to see the post you got flagged for? I only got my first one about an hour ago and I see no trace of any of my posts being hidden or any reference to a post of mine
when you get silenced/flagged, itâs the missing post that stands out on where/when it happened. Iâve been muted twice before, and that was the common denominator.
Would you look at that, a completely reasonable way to counter this abysmally small percentage of players that are playing in an extremely outlier-ish way, and it doesnât involve time limits. everybody should be happy, people donât have to be forced to have a time limit, and blizzard can still stop the problem that isnât a problem. Win-win.
âabysmally smallâ cant be proven and âextremely outlier-ishâ is really smug, donât be like that dude
Come on blizzard give me more of those lies. Keep lying to use. Torghast Torment Timer! 
TICK TOCK GOES THE CLOCK!
People waiting for their cooldowns? Solve the problem a better way like items you can find in jars to reduce cooldown. Donât be smooth brained about this.
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How is that smug? And while of course I cannot objectively prove it, I donât think the player base is patient enough on the whole to wait for their cooldowns before every single pull, based on my experience with this player base, they are much too impatient for that, ergo it is a non-issue.
itâs the implication
youâre devaluing the amount of people who enjoy content because you donât like it, and itâs not even based in fact, you just guessed
How am I devaluing anything? Do you know the meaning of the words youâre using? Iâm not trying to be rude, but honestly. If other people like timers and that kind of thing, thatâs fine, Iâm not trying to take that away from them. What Iâm saying is leave that stuff for the regular mode, and have a completely stress-free fun endless mode that doesnât have to worry about any of the balance or timers or anything. That way everybody is happy in theory.
Bellular says it best in this video, much more eloquently than I could ever sum up: https://youtu.be/tf1-Jo_BBX8
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if you just said âa completely reasonable way to benefit both kinds of playersâ i wouldnât care, but itâs the addition of saying that theyâre a small bunch with tastes completely different from the majority without any definitive proof is the part that stood out
thatâs all it is my guy
Yeah I agree with you on OPâs misrepresentation, at least of Preach. I even posted his video interview with Morgan Day, and they touched on Torghast, and all seemed fine. OP also had no acknowledgement for my post, which I find a lil ironic, since you know - itâs of one of the streamers he mentions.
Whatever. lol You can lead a horse to waterâŚyadda yadda yadda.
Iâm not keen on a timer, but current game play standards, if it means itâs going to be like a M+ setting, but itâs still in alpha, and I was worried after I saw a Bellular post on twitter(as I stated in my post with the preach vid) but then I found the video, watched it, and have a little bit of hope that all of this, from the OP, as well as Bell and others, is serious over-reaction.
However, we all know how Blizzard is - so anything is possible, and I wouldnât put anything past them. Iâm just going to hold out a small glimmer of hope that it isnât going to be something extreme, or that an option is given for regular/âchallengingâ for those who have issues with such thingsâŚor something like that.
Everyone saying Torghast regular should have these debuffs while endless should be timer free, do realize âendlessâ is supposed to be challenge mode⌠right? In the Morgan Day interview he even said they want regular mode accessible and completable for everyone so that they can get their leggos. So why put the stacking debuffs there?
MMOs shouldnât be competitive. They should be cooperative. If I want competitive Iâll go play Call of Duty or whatever.
Why does Torghast need a timer when weâve already got timed modes in the game? Why canât there be a single refuge in the game for people like me?
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