I think Ive been hearing idiots say that this game is dead or dying since the day I started playing (2010).
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It feels like you’re implying this is something new.
Sadly it isn’t new. I put a lot of work into gearing up my mage and pally (professions and raiding), and my friend got a fresh 70 rogue and now it has better gear.
For me, it disincentives me to play. Why bother chasing this stuff when in the next patch you’ll get better gear for less work?
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Counter point. Why bother every making an alt or start playing the game after it launched, if you cant ever catch up?
But this is the gear treadmill that is the mmo…this is the name of the game in this genre it’s what keeps the hamster wheel turning.
The thing is, do you want catch up systems that invalidate previous patches so people can join their friends quickly, or do you want a longer game which is potentially more fun but also kind of a slog? The two things seem hard to balance. I think they came up with classic so people could have both versions and pick.
I mean when is that not true?
Old content stopped being relevant when they did Level squishing and chromie time.
Before it was a slog. Leveling became semi inconsequential. But besides leveling how are you not playing the patch?
Raids always came out in patches. Old raids were always inferior to new from gear lvl increases. I don’t think that statement is chalk full of wisdom at all.
Not everything counts to everyone. If they were interested in those things to begin with they probably wouldn’t be saying they feel like there is nothing to do. Yes, there are people that would complain just to complain no matter how much there was to do…
But on the other end of that spectrum there are people that treat every blade of grass in the game as if it is unique and engaging content purely for the sake of telling people they haven’t done everything.
For example a person might say “I feel like I’ve run out of things to do in Dragonflight.” and will often be met with something like “Well, do you have your Shadowlands Pathfinder achievement?” Which is basically an irrelevant question. That person may not ever intend to do anything in Shadowlands and have no interest in the pathfinder achievement, and it’s just being used as a counter argument for criticism of an entirely different expansion.
Sure. And somewhere between those ends of the spectrums is a good game with plenty of stuff to do. Which… is WoW.
We have an inordinate amount of people who hyper-focus on a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of content to play, and then say “there’s nothing to do.”
Sorry… not having that.
You don’t have to be a hardcore collector like me and be DROWNING in stuff to do, such that you can’t seem to ever get anything done.
But there is PLENTY to do in this game, even for a very active player.
If you have no other hobbies and do nothing else with your life such that you want WoW to fill the 10-14 hour a day void you have … the “lack” of content in WoW isn’t your problem.
Yes yes, I’m playing a patch of the game.
And old content is still there anytime I feel like it. On this character I sometimes grind mechagon just because I can, and most if not all my characters do things like that. It won’t progress my gear score, but there are things besides gear score to acquire.
Part of the reason I’m chipping away at Loremaster (and actually having fun).
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Concept: new raids give better gear than old raids for the first 3-4 weeks of the raid being made available. After that period of time, all old raids give gear of the same level per tier as current content, and are actually usable.
This Patch: The part of the game that you’re allowed to play.
The last Patch: The part of the game nobody plays, where you can solo (almost) everything and nobody cares.
The other 18 years of content: Pretty much one shottable, with Moonfire. This is the true endgame of WoW.
You make it sound like this hasn’t been the case since the game released
They left balance druid doing like 30% more damage than every other spec for all of patch 9.1. Everyone and their grandma rerolled druid the second 9.0.5 was over. Seasons are fresh start because they are trying to tempt everyone to FOTM hop. It’s just a little part of the big picture.
It’s really perplexing that people are acting like this hasn’t been the case for near the entire time the game has existed.
Like I can’t think of a raid patch that has dropped and NOT invalidated 99% of prior raid gear, barring the occasional overtuned trinket here and there, or legendaries.
I mean… Prefer to do what Destiny 2 does? Pay for patches basically?
When have we ever not been in the process of playing a patch? This isn’t some genius realization.
These posts just reveal that there’s a lot of people that really need to give up on nostalgia and stop playing wow. The game is fundamentally the same thing it’s always been. Level character, do content, get gear. If this doesn’t excite you anymore that’s fine. Just move on already. The game isn’t going to become something entirely different. Systems and patches and content come and go but it’s always the same carrot on a stick design.
Countless posts trying to “figure out the problem” won’t do anything and it’s pointless. The problem is you, the players, the players that will never be happy because the game will never give them what they used to get out of it.
Old addicts chasing a high that ain’t coming.
I play alts though.
The game’s been on “life support” since it launched in 2004.
Yet it’s still here despite all the doomers.
There’s a lot of people that raid log, because they enjoy other games or do things in RL.
That’s okay too y’know.