Good patch. Thanks, Blizzard.
Dear development team, you have listened to us and created 2 new abilities for the implementation of Orb of Slow. however, you gave those 2 new abilities to the same old item, please create a new item to carry the new abilities.
On that note, It seems you have forgotten to apply this healthy logic to MoonGlaive and Immolation.
You gave MoonGlaives a weapon glow, and didn’t create a new ability for the change, which means every custom game that recycled and used this passive ability is going to have their custom units running around with a mysterious blue glow on their weapons.
PS there is plenty of glows in the game, maybe dont give one that has a long tail end when the units move. Might be distracting to melee players.
You also nerfed immolation for the neutral units, while not taking into account that the Dreadlords Infernal ultimate also has the same neutral immolation, so you basically nerfed an undead heros ultimate.
Please codify the idea of creating new abilities and items for applying new entries, much love, thanks for the effort.
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This is the worst patch ever please revert it asap.
Wards are broken
Taurens are unstoppable
Hunts : lul
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This is the beginning of a good step,Good patch
IT IS A BUG or feature?
- Dark Ranger Drain Life transfer life to a unit.
lvl1 increase 0.7830>>168 friend unitly hp,darkranger decrease 168 hp(because of hero armor?)
Compared to mana drain, it is discounted skill
it may have lost some of the fun gameplay for this
hope this skill can be compared to mana drain,like this:
lvl1 increase 8*30>>240 friend unitly hp,dr decrease 168 hp(DR’s Hp is so poor)
Range: buff from 500 to 600
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The local plebs just can’t seem to grasp that no one cares about their 1k MMR. Most people are interested in the pro scene. And for years now, the situation has been depressing for Night Elves. The same was true for Humans until the past couple of years. Justice was finally served.
Yeah, sure, among the 5–6 Night Elf pros there’s not a single worthy one, and yet, somehow, it just so happens that the two ‘geniuses’ who dominated the pro scene for the past 8 years both play Undead. And then Labyrinth suddenly breaks into the top as well — must be another Warcraft genius, clearly better than the ‘noob’ Night Elves who’ve been playing the game for 20 years. Do you really believe in these fantasies?
Here’s a fact, for all you 120 glories:
Your idol Happy only started destroying everyone after a series of patches that made it significantly easier for Undeads to expand. Before 2017, they almost always played one base fast Tier 3. And there was at least some semblance of balance. As soon as that changed — Happy, already one of the best (if not the best) players in the world, began steamrolling everyone. Except guess who? That’s right — by strange coincidence, only another Undead. What a miracle.) During that period, they had around a 50% winrate against each other. Only Lyn, as best orc of all times, was also holding on with around 40–45%. What more evidence do you need to see that something’s off here?
Happy would never be able to dominate like this with any other race. And don’t even start with that nonsense about him playing off-races. That’s just a show, a joke — no serious player takes that stuff seriously. With any other race, he wouldn’t even have a 70% winrate, let alone the 80–90% he gets with Undead.
All the later nerfs to Undead after the easy expand change — completely meaningless. The only one worth mentioning is the Heal Scroll in the shop — that was a serious nerf.
Here’s what urgently needs to be nerfed for the other races, just compare:
Humans – tanks armor type, siphon mana .
Orcs – Raider’s ensnare.
Night Elves – possibly mana burn.
Undead – reduce HP of Destroyers and Statues by about 1.5 times, nerf the web and burrow of Fiends, the slow (as and ms) from the Lich’s Nova and frost armor, as well as from Nerubian tower and the main by at least two times.
There’s a lot more that could be nerfed or buffed for all races, but this is the main URGENT stuff.
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can u pls give night elf better tools to counter late game summons and bm illusions? Wisps are just too expensive and unreliable… walks into stasis, ez one shot nuked before reaching enemies, expensive, etc…
Maybe give potm owl an AURA (like Phoenix) but moon/lunar themed.
Deals DPS to summoned units and illusions (10/15/20). She is rarely picked anyway.
Also why not revert the changes to huntresses and instead give her a new ability (makes shield now active)… Functions like defend that reduces piercing damage by 40% (or what ever the percentage neede to bring 150% to around 110%)… this way siege damage is still a counter to them but can tank piercing more.
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I’m sure that if, in the coming years, bots start playing championships against each other like they do in chess, their choice will fall on Undead. Or we need an AlphaZero equivalent that plays countless games against itself, gradually filtering out openings and leaving only the strongest ones. I’m really looking forward to that moment — just to shut up all the 120 and co glories once and for all.
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this patch is most dead patch and not logic at all. chims movement speed is like have boot of speed, i can even chase a footie. gyro 250 hp already so easy to die and feed exp and now a a slow flying turtle machine. easy to kills with hippo or talons.
so far, most OP is ORC. especially tauren resistance skin and immune WARDS a magic spell , most broken race is human, spell breaker is now spell broken. cant steal spell. i think blizzard should just remove this unit. no way to beat orc with human unless cheese.
i tried to go tc wave, fs wolves with critical strike + blade critical strike + tauren + spirit + shaman + doctor + bats as AA. anything came from front are mostly die, super fast attack fast kills, big health. AOE damage from tauren and spirit’s free resurrection and super healing from doctor. orc always have full health. enemy cant reach my healing wards spam from behind and by the time they try to run over to shoot it. they already died.
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REVERSE THE HUNTS PATCH REVERSE MILITIA ARMOR. you have literally recked the game. stupid changes from biased players!!!
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add call to arms ability on expo town hall tier 1.
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it would be same absurd as heavy armor t2 hunts and wisp wood harvesting buff
The tauren + ancestral spirit were always op against all races but now they have no counter because resistant skin protects them from black arrow it is instawin against all races now.
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Fixing the minimap for Mac users when? Do we have to wait another year? Until when?
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NERF SERPENT WARD yesterday PLZ, and is it balanced that elf can just sit and watch everything MELT VS tower rush ? AoW to weak cant do anything, moonwell to weak, yea very balanced very balanced, what i should do ? UPROOT MAIN and look when it dies in 8hits aswell ??? 2 AoW 6moonwell and still cant hold a tower rush are u kidding me ?
heavy armor t2 hunts and wisp wood harvesting buff
it is good . but not enough
heavy armor t2 hunts reserch time is too long
NE also need Goblin’s machine to get more lumber now,wisp wood harvesting get more buff untill not need Goblin’s machine
WOW. I notice Bloodmage’s siphon mana increased from 10 to 25 without even telling everyone in the patch. well done blizzard for being sneaky and fishy to nerf human without telling them.
ahah another Ne fake nerf, to “counter” the broken heavy armor hunts and wood harvesting buffs
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THANK YOU for the bloodmage hotfix. This nerf is needing and doesnt kill the bloodmage but makes hu players have to actually think about when to use syphon without spamming for free.
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Oh really? If this is a fake nerf then why not revert back Sentinel to unlimited time, that would be a fake buff according to your theory. This is a -60% REAL nerf. You may say this change not in a Critical point for massive HTs Meta while defining the change as fake itself is a fake claiming.
If you dislike the Revolutionary changes in 2.02, you need soild logic to point out why changes in 2.02 are bad. Make a false claiming, however will only prove anti-2.02 Commentators who attacking the Patch are not Trustworthy at all from Blizzard’s view.