They're working on UI and fixing stuff,guys!

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You seem to misunderstand something. Dota 2 Is it’s own game Completely coded from scratch. With features specific to a Moba. Reconnection features ect.

Have you played Dota? i have. I never liked it not in it’s map/mod form in Warcraft or it’s Valve Form. Also Dota 2 Is nothing like The Warcraft 3 map Dota.

The characters dosn’t look the same. Dosn’t play the same. Dosn’t have the same names.

They played with a Car toy and thought “Hey we can do better on our own”.

And yes it WAS a hobby. Then they made it into a job? How awesome is that. having your hobby as a job.

They did not steal anything from Blizzard. They do not use Blizzards Engine. They do not use Blizzards heroes. But Blizzard would really like that. they would really REALLY LIKE IT!.

Like the creep standing in the back staring at the prom.
If your creativity even touches ANYTHING Blizzard! They want a peice of the cake.

Those “Rats” as you call them. Invented new characters with backstories. Did blizzard have anything with the creation of those characters? No. Nothing besides the editor they made freely available because back then Blizzard was run BY gamers FOR gamers! But not now. Now they are a company with shareholders. And if you even look at them they are going to make you pay for looking.

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zhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3z4FtZE7Rs

Yeah,these characters are soooo different,so original
It’s like a chinese rip-offs,when character appearance or logo is slightly changed but yet the same,and he even uses the same lines sometimes

C’mon,It’s like saying that Palladins aren’t Overwatch Rip-off

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“soon” should have been a year ago in a open beta test.

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Soooo.
a undead knight?
a Evil Vampire?
a Knight without a horse.
a Knight
Dragons?
a Undead summoners.
Dead spiders?

i dare you to go play those characters, The only thing you have shown are generic characters.

So because Warcraft have Vampires nobody else can have vampires? Did you know the creators of Warcraft played Dungeons and Dragons?

Have you PLAYED those characters ingame? Anti mage and illidan are not the same character they don’t even have the same abilities`?

xhttps://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/hero/anti-mage-27

xhttps://liquipedia.net/warcraft/Demon_Hunter

Oh they have curved weapons you say? Yeah News flash Curved weapons aren’t nothing new either.

Google “Curved Weapons Axe”. Anti mage and Illidan doesn’t have the same TYPE of weapon.

EDIT: Typos

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Character have same movements,same archetype,same distinctive features,some of same quotes.
You can have an inspired character…>But when your game is entirely made with character rip-offs it’s stealing

A Fat,Ugly looking butcher with a lot of blood and gore,small head on fat round body,with hook and axe,saying “FRESH MEAT!” isn’t abomination?

A knight with hammer in golden armor screaming “for my father,the king!” Isn’t Arthas or Uther?

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Like “Grom” instead of Hellscream…yeah

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yeah they were basicly copying tf2. Not that it matters since tf2 is now a hacker filled hellhole

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What are you talking about? In the old 2002 localization his name was Grom “The Bully” - Reforged calls him Grommash Hellscream
Same story with “Malganus - Mal’ganis”,“Black Stone Clan - Black Rock Clan”,“Kelthuzed - Kel’thuzad”
“Gnomes - Dwarf” “Azara - Azshara” “Silvergard - Silvermoon”

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Yeah. Because it’s Dota. THey have to look the same. But the Demon hunter in Warcraft does not have anything similar to Anti mage besides a resemblance. Also they are different characters Does Anti mage have a friend name Kael-Thas? Does he Transform into a demon to use thier own powers against them.

Blizzard didn’t want Dota using Blizzard Assets even tough they were different characters Dota makers said “okay , we’ll create our own Dota with different models”
Also. Blizzard did not have a Moba at the time. they did not have a Gametype that Dota could rip off.

They thought the character type was cool. Even if YOU think it’s stealing. Making a character that’s a prince in a medieval setting yeah that’s real original. Oh. a Mage with a staff? Woooaw Blizzard better put a patent on that. Look up Dungeons and Dragons , Look up Warhammer. If Dota stole from Blizzard. Blizzard stole from All other Medieval/fantasy games.

whether you like it or not. All art are derivative in some form.

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Not in my localisation (Italian). And in Italian like a lot of languages they screw a lot of dialogue.

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Grom is actually his name. Hellscream is a surname/nickname
Grom - Is short for Grommash

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No it’s not. A bad release is a hundred times worse than a good delayed release. Stop advocating bad consumer practices.

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Doesn’t matter. The all sense of reforged is one. Or you bring the campaign of classic 100% the same with only new grafich or you remade the campaign with WoW new lore.

Instead we have this campaign with a lot of old dialogue gone, none, new dialogue (because, you know, we don’t want to left the original “spirit” of Warcraft3) but a lot of cut. Only Sylvanas now say “you son of a b*tch to arthas when she try to kill him. A lot of dialogue have been cut. This is no longer the original Warcraft 3 campaign and neither is a reforged one. This is the child/policaly correct edition.

They even cut a lot of jokes, comon.

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Yes, he is. Still defending and praising this game with nearly 1400 posts. He’s also one of the few people that didn’t want another delay.

He’s the forums village idiot, just leave him alone :sweat_smile:.

I can’t wait for OW2 and the next fiasco!

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eh? was that the original wc 3 beta you are talking about ?because nothing was called like that in the original wc3

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Have a look at it, this pretty much represents how overwhelmingly blinded you sound.

i’ll give you one credit, your arguments are most of the time just flat out wrong and based on your bias opinion. but your title for this topic is one i can support.

Saying a neutral thing like, they’re working on to improve things is something i can get behind.

but also you mention they’re working on UI just because you heard there was a job opening. you don’t even know someone got hired yet, yet you’re rushing to their defense for no reason.

Also imagine calling modern Blizzard at its current state selfless, and we the community selfish, you aren’t really going to convince anyone that you have an IQ above 1.

One can be hopeful and look forward to the future, making a thread topic with the title such as yours. i could actually support the title thread more then yourself.

but when you start to type you just sound cheesy and uncomfortable to talk to.

If you split apart Reforged as a product to what we had as Wc3 before, anyone could see that at launch and even now the state of the game is still a downgrade compared to what we had with patch 1.31.1 and Wc3 Classic.

Also one point i wanted to mention, in most of your arguments you seem to be only and exclusively rooting for Reforged alone, and have little to no care for the original game and Reforged in Classic mode. you often call people like me responsible for Blizzard pulling back on their promises. despite it being clear that the Classic Team simply ran out of time and budget near the release of the game.

Oh and the funny part is, you claim Reforgeds campaign to be superior to that of the Classic one. how about we take the most iconic advertised thing in Reforged hmm ?

Lets take the Culling mission, in Reforged, after Arthas finally finishes his mission, and confronts the Dreadlord, he just stands there like a soulless statue when talking even when he was screaming when Mal’ganis teleported away.

But in the original game, in this iconic moment, when Arthas confronted him, and Mal’ganis Teleported away, Arthas walked all the way to the bridge while talking, and when reached the point, he raised his hammer when screaming at Mal’ganis before the game fading out.

If this iconic moment isn’t a clear example at the utter lack of quality and polish this game had, and that the Classic Team ran out of time. then i don’t have any interest in further discussing with you.

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Yay. It’s like when they released Diablo 3. Release crap and then keep working on it until it’s okayish.

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i got diablo last year, its okay until you finished the game within 2 hours and then cant be arsed to play it again because the game forced you to play it on easy mode before

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Don’t worry МракоРыцарь.

There is a guy on this forum named МракоРыцарь who consistently tells us that blizzard have an entirely different build ready for release that will fix all issues of the beta and we will get the 2018 reveal on release.

Hey wait a minute…

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Lol, not surprised, trolling the forum is more fun than playing this mess.

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