I had seen in multiplayer games raist insults, players wixh atack teammates in multiplayers games, once one guyin my team atacked me because he want to make a rush and he ordered thath everyone should build two barracs for the rush, I disagre because I didn’t want to follow thath order and he atacked me and the team loose the game for thath behavior, it should be forbidden thath behavior and cause of penalty with ban, first a temporaly ban of monts and if the behavior persist permanent ban of the server, and of course ban for map hacks, it’s frustrating thath now there is not control of any type
the moderators should be ejemplar players, when I played in pvpgn servers in the decade of 2000 we had this moderators and everithing was better.
I never saw a game in wich you had to atack a teammate and you had the chance of win, if memebers os a team are atacking each other they are completely lost
Blizz staff are already moderators. Players cannot be trusted to use these powers responsibly.
And besides, even if they did give these powers to people, the very first thing you would see is people not liking the guy who got given them because he/she’s “just a paid Blizz shill” or “a toxic tryhard who’s on a power trip” or “a glorified Discord mod who bans anyone who disagrees with them” or whatever other excuse you’d manage to think of.
At least Blizzard employees have a potential degree of accountability that carries tangible consequences beyond just a removal of said rights and probably an account ban from the forums.
Also, if someone reaches 3,000 posts, the forum should simply cap the counter and display a instead. (Or “Veteran” title) (like the level cap in StarCraft2 Co-op).
That way everyone could enjoy democracy, equality, and equity.
Plus, Blizzard should invest in more staff, more moderators, and better communication procedures. I’ve mentioned this somewhere before, but different offences should have different thresholds. Spamming Real life threats, or Sexual Slurs, TK, and constantly being AFK are not the same and should not be treated identically. Should all have a different threshold (eg RLT=3, SS=15, TK=100, AFK=500).
However, once a player reaches a certain threshold for any of these offences, they should first be contacted by a GM, have the issue explained to them, and receive a warning.For repeated offences penalties.
Likewise, if a player stops committing offences or misdemeanours for a long enough period 1-2 years his history should be completely reset. clean slate.
Going off topic and talking about things that are not related to this game or this topic.
MVPs are not moderators and never have been, plus once again, your trying to make your point about something unrelated, you just feel it’s related because you merge them as the same thing.
Can we stick to the topic and stop trying to derail it by always trying to offer others outside aspects?
MVPs is an outdated system that was expanded to other games, but originated on wow forums iirc (I might be wrong here).
The MVPs on other forums generally are the same tech MVPs who have earned that place to be there.
They were never moderators for forums, nor did any of them want to be moderators. Blizzard staff can do moderator duty if/when they choose to, which is valid.
If Blizzard want to do some announcement / NEWS (eg. game releases War 2 Remastered ; major patches eg. Reforged 2.0 ; expiry date of CD keys) they can do through official staff.
If they want to collect feedback they can anytime just read our forums + there are also special forums: “Support Site Feedback”.
If something needs urgently to be escalated (like they just ruined SC2) - the moderators can follow escalation procedures - justifying that “lately there are one million threads related to the same changes”.
If we want to ask info, we can through forums, or if urgent we can use Support Ticket.
For example I was discussing with MVP the Inappropriate Battle Tags - and while he agreed I feel he did not acted in any way - issue is still there, those “inappropriate names” remained since more 1 year now.
I am confident that Blizzard have Community Managers and Quality teams in place to ensure Procedures / Rules are actually being applied. So again no need for duplicate roles eg. MVP.
You do not have the authority nor experience to say what is or is not “justified” either, Cat. Do not claim to know that you’re in such a position either.
Why would you expect him to? He is not staff, he is a community member with no ability to affect things.
You are expecting things to happen because you do not understand the role they have.
And no, thanks we do not need MVP-s if they have no influence and can’t get anything addressed. Other gaming communities manage without MVP-s.
They also weren’t selected from the most respected members of the War3 / Sc2 community (eg. Grubby, Moon, WTii, LowKo or others).
They were simply anointed as MVPs for reasons that were never clear to the community.
Leviathan was selected for his technical know-how and that is what he wields on the SC2 forums. It’s evident from his actions why he was selected for the role.
Thank you for saying this, I’m glad I’m not the only one!
They even explained that over and over and for some reason it still didn’t stick, they have a misconception on how forums work and how volunteers work.
There are plenty of people in these forums with computer science degrees and decades of experience in programming, networking, sys admin and debugging. Technical knowledge isn’t something that’s exclusive to MVPs.
From my experience some of those community members are also far more constructive in discussions. They explain things without being dismissive or mocking and I have seen enough examples over the years to form that opinion.
That’s why I don’t find the MVP role particularly convincing.
If MVPs don’t have any authority to resolve issues, can’t influence Blizzard’s decisions, and don’t provide expertise that the wider community doesn’t already have, then I honestly don’t see what unique purpose the role serves.
If Blizzard has an MVP programme, it should be overseen by Blizzard staff. Any concerns about MVP conduct should be reviewed through a clear and impartial process.
instead. (Or “Veteran” title) (like the level cap in StarCraft2 Co-op).
