Leavers intentionally ruining WC3

4v4 is plagued by accounts that only queue for matches to quit immediately every single time with the sole purpose of ruining the gaming experience for everyone involved and you aren’t doing anything to stop them. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF WC3 PAY ATTENTION TO THIS PLAGUE AND DO SOMETHING!

It’s not that easy to fight them.
For this, we need moderators on the forum who will monitor all replays sent by users. As it is done in w3champions.
For any exit from the game with a provable replay - a ban incrementally (from 1 day and further, if repeated).
But I doubt that there will be enthusiasts who will monitor all replays and assign bans. Moreover, there may be biases in one direction or another, since this is a human factor.

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It’s very simple to do. If they detect someone leaving a match in the first five minutes three times in a row they get a 30 minute timeout.

Many games end within 5 minutes for entirely legitimate reasons, so no, it’s not that easy.

Just hero harass as fast as possible and you can often get someone to ragequit within that timeframe.

It is possible for someone to get actioned in this game but it basically requires the same person to be reported for the same reason many times by different people before an account gets flagged for review by the automated system.

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The issue has been present for decades and for decades also it has been ignored.

I have opened a direct tickets to support but all I got in response is to keep patiently reporting those leavers, one by one, via “chat” report function after each game… Maybe they will act then but do not expect them to do any further… The burden is thrown on players to waste time reporting each of those pesky leavers, one by one, game after game, in futile hope that maybe it be acted upon, nothing more from blizzard in that matter.

if someone ragequits in the first 5 minutes 3 games in a row i’m perfectly fine with them getting a 30 minute timeout

maybe you didn’t read

Many games end within 5 minutes for entirely legitimate reasons, so no, it’s not that easy.

The appropriate response here if you think someone is purely “ragequitting” and a game wasn’t really over yet, report them, and Blizzard needs to make reporting more effective.

Also if you make it specifically “three times in a row” it can be abused (throw 2 games, play 1 for real, throw 2 more… etc). If we had to implement something like this, “X number of times within Y time period” makes more sense. But I’d still be concerned about people getting punished when games are effectively (but not literally- e.g. 2 ppl stay in game for longer for example) over quickly.

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Dude I don’t give a $%& JUST DO SOMETHING ANYTHING! I’ve never encountered such a toxic-griefer-purposely trying to ruin the game for all the other players community and it’s because Blizzard is asleep at the wheel. If you can’t agree with that I don’t know what the $%#& game you’re playing.

If you quit a match in Wow PvP early you get a 30 minute timeout and it works just fine. I’m certain there is something they could implement along these lines. Or they could run a search on play history and BAN ACCOUNTS that are clearly griefing.

What you can’t do is expect to have an army of gnomes in Blizzard’s dungeon reading reports 24/7. Blizzard doesn’t even have a drop down option for reporting griefers. That’s how out to lunch they are on this issue.

Dude, leaver is great, also better leaver than noob

You’re just making my point for me. This toxic community is driving people away from the game. It takes queuing 4 or more tries these days to find a game where you actually get a game to play.

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Do you even understand leaver give you more winrate? You want a noob or tk clown with you or just a leaver?

I really understand how you feel, I just don’t want to see people getting punished for legit games just because they were decided fast.

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Most of us like “actually playing” the game, Yes, I’d rather have people actually play, regardless of skill or intelligence, than just quit in the first 10 seconds. You may be obsessed with win rate, but some of us are actually here to play a game, not just watch a number go up.

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Me play 1v1 most, few times tried 4x4 and it was ruined fast by leavers also…
But, when you leave you obviously lose, lose mmr, so if u are any experienced and good u shall not face hard-leavers often
So probably its rank-matching problem?

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Oh yes, there are lots of rank matching problems, but that’s really the point. Most of the time people aren’t just leaving for “teh lulz” they’re leaving 1) becuase they matchup on the loading screen was extremely and obviously unfair, or 2) they failed to defend against a fast hero harass and ragequit, or 3) saw this happen to someone else and decided the game was over already.

There’s also the leaving because a particular person is in the game, which I would not just report for leaving but as harassment.

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Or like mechanism like “-gg” in Dota needed
Even if your game didn’t go well, you can still be useful for your team, go to hard defence etc…
And when you loose with teams’ “-gg” or lose till end u’ll slightly lose mmr, else u’ll lose mmr dramatically, so there should be a reason to stay.
Obviously new leaving would be an AFK, so mechanism detecting AFK also would be needed to punish with dramatic loss of mmr.
Probably also there always would be one standing to the end who don’t wright “-gg”, so thats the sacrifice one should be ready for playing 4v4

:rofl: Clowns still cant understand, noobs shall leave for a team win.

:rofl: Clowns still cant understand, noobs shall leave for a team win.

Must be weird complex to win at any cost
When one signs up on 4v4, it’s expected 4v4
Noobs can be on both sides
I feel it unfair if on another side one person has to control multiple, it doesn’t feel as win to defeat such team

The question is, two teams are often unbalance. I meet a lot of players who have no effect every day. Some games If I want to win, they must quit the game early
Yesterday I encountered a game where the opponent had 4 players with winrate 70%, and I had one player with a winrate 60 and two players with winrate 20…, I ask at start of game politely to my 20 winrate player, if one of they can leave, or both. But they refuse to listen and answer, you can leave, I play farmore better than you, winrate in 4vs4 random team show nothing :joy: Of course, there was no suspense in this situation. Even I have highest unit kill of 8 in this game (higher than the sum of the three people on my side) and destroyed three bases, I don’t see any hope of winning, because the two players are typical 0 effect clown (stay in base forever) and I can’t destroy all 10 goldmine (pushed 3/10) of the four opponents by myself.
Better leaver than noob is already a rule among high mmr players. I often see, when a high mmr player from opponent loses, he will talk in all chat: xxx should quit so he had a chance.

That’s why such topics are created
If it’s a rank-matching problem, lets talk about that
This topic is not about problem of newbies that stay, it’s about those who leave
Anyway asking people to leave is not good for a community, especially if it’s again just a rank-matching problem. Till it fixed, rather asking to leave there is W3C and custom lobby