There is not even a playable game at this point. This is all vaporware. Have you tried logging in?
Nope. Iâm waiting for Reforged, Iâm not interested in WC3. I just want to mod the game.
Change NOTHING ?
ok lets see how would this end up.
1 - bots still held monopoly over the top custom games played and lesser/newer maps had no chance to compete.
2 - non of the new naitives to codes, and GUI for triggering would have been add.
3 - Not sure if it was for better or worse but i was downright sick of the balance status in 1.28 base.
4 - The communities spirit was there but it was very lowkey and alot of the new people that came and started projects because of the constant updates would have never come.
5 - ultimately that hole in alot of peoples heart that this great game would get some love after dota left it in the dust would have never been filled⌠and would slowly join the legends of past like Command and Conquer and Dawn of War 1.
In other news however, they did some server cleanup, most peoples pings should be better then what it usually was.
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Guys, I have understood now why there was no zoo in the Reforged demo in 2018!
Because there were no creatures ready at the time!
Iâm fully expecting there to be a zoo in Stratholme on release! High expectations, yay!
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Ugh. Now youâre hyping me up to wanting to see giraffes and hippos and all sorts of other animals that Blizzard introduced in WoW that we havenât seen before in WC3.
Iâm gonna be so disappointed when it doesnât happen.
The only creature I care is about is the Fallen Titan Skink.
I think they said in one of the interviews that thereâs not going to be a zoo in Stratholme. And to be honest, it never made any sense anyway⌠
Replay the mission OP, youâll be bored to actual tears.
Thats a very good observation. I agree completely.
Speaking as somebody who will miss the Zoo and the massive layout of the city:
Gameplay-wise⌠I think the redesign is a good move.
Aesthetically Iâm against it but gameplay should trump aesthetics.
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Iâm actually a bit surprised anyone would argue for the aesthetic of the previous map. The greek archways and pillars didnât match up with the west european houses imo.
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The Classic version of the campaign is being included with Reforged, OP. You didnât need to make this thread.
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People here crying about the zoo seem to have forgotten that Stratholme was a bayside city literally just by the shore and no one seems to care that it was retconned in WC3
If thereâs anything more annoying that WoW and Blizzard bootlickers, itâs the WC3 purists themselves
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Didnât Dalaran used to be shaped like a cross in WC2 as well?
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Yes, and the Tomb of Sargeras was literally a brownish desert island with no actual temple, just a small hill
WC3 retconned WC2
WC3 is not canon
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They took the zoo also 
Actually, I donât mind if the mission will be more interesting
The original was very bothersome, did your know about bandit camp near your base? I found out recently
Just add the freaking rain, itâs canon
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They should add in the infinite dragonflight, and if you beat the mission in under 30 you get a bronze drake mount for Arthas
Mate Iâm not comparing the 2 of course WoW like maps will sure win and I want to see them in every single campaign mission but what I suggested is to keep the integrity, honor what survived for so long and BTW changing the map means difficulty change without question (not arguing about harder or easier). This way people would be able to experience the original with updated graphics + extra work, and this project is a just updating the graphics than anything else (not over changing everything to meet WoW story or representation)
Last thing, The founding of Durotar campaign wasnât actually planned just a passionate developers asked for the chance and look what we got, an amazing campaign with sorta Single player action RPG style, dont you want to see all the campaigns have somewhat a similar take (as an addition to how they are originally played ?).
How are you replying to? Youâve quoted yourself.
Why do you think so? Iâm quite sure 90% of the people buying Refoged buy it for the campaign. Why else? If you have been playing it, why would you buy new graphics?
How are you replying to? Youâve quoted yourself.
That was for âButcherâ
You donât have to be a WoW player to appreciate new map layout - even if it now resembled one from WoW. What was so special about the original map that it has to be kept? As pointed out already, the new map has a lot advantages and is improved in many other ways too. The fact that is resembles WoW Stratholme is kind of a bonus (or a con to purists) on the side. Iâd imagine they are going to change many of the other maps to be more streamlined and make more sense gameplay-wise, too. And they donât necessarily have to resemble WoW map.
Iâm quite sure 90% of the people buying Refoged buy it for the campaign.
same here Iâm too buying it for the campaign but still want those who never played the original at least to appreciate it with the addition of WoW like representation. However I think the custom maps are going to benefit from the graphics upgrade (even if alone) because some maps have huge depth complexity to them (or high learn curve) and would sure benefit too from the engine update, although there are currently in the original maps that use literally WoW models in them what I mean is for long the maps size were limited to 8MB so that was the actual limitation of you could do with the game but now that limit increased (hope Reforgeâs is even higher if possible).
But there is the base game which is the build tech up and defeat your opponent (how the game was designed to be played) and they said as we are linking the two games together the core mechanics of the 2 has to be and behave the same way (Iâm actually doubting if itâs a good move since it could limit the possibility of giving certain unit some a bit more creative/cooler look), this example can be seen first with the Militia peasant in Reforge it seems that it look that it could use faster attacks (or animations to better represent it) however due how the game mechanics work itâs not viable since give it lower attack but faster attack speed might not very well (will sure not) pan out with how other mechanics works.
-Still really doubting if that link was a good move but nonetheless to me it seems like a hindrance to Reforge possibilities-