Blizzard cancelling the new voice lines is the best thing to happen to this game

[anon64258002]

Maybe they should make a DLC later for people who have WOW subsctription

And retcon the story

But for us.

Reforged and and alternative storyline is better

[Argronok0-1900]

I wouldn’t go that far.

What’s wrong with Ragnaros and Neferian in Blackrock Mountain?

Or the Old God C’thun in Silithus?

[Antonidas-21373]

They believe that it blocks possibility of Warcraft 4. Which is not true as Warcraft 4 can happen after or alongside WoW events. The only blockade is Blizzard not being eager to make a new RTS game that could be great hit against Starcraft.

[Ardenaso-1336]

@Antonidas-21373

They believe that it blocks possibility of Warcraft 4. Which is not true as Warcraft 4 can happen after or alongside WoW events.

I’m pretty sure BFA is the Fourth War, so it may be the setting stage for WC4

[Rossosangue-2302]

@Ardenaso-1336

I’m pretty sure BFA is the Fourth War, so it may be the setting stage for WC4

Yes, but first we need “new” Warcraft 1 and 2 because a lot of things have changed respect from the old times. Like Medivh that in Warcraft 1 was a bald crazy wizard that summons scheleton. We need a better scenario with Khadgar, Lothar, Garona and a quick Cutescene where khadgar take the aging spell in the face

[Ardenaso-1336]

@Rossosangue-2302

Yes, but first we need “new” Warcraft 1 and 2

Yes, we would also need to retcon WC1 and WC2 if we would reforge them, here’s some observations by deestrasz:

@deepstrasz-2920

It’s also here in RoC where the spell Heal was retconned as being first discovered by the elves and taught to and the Light being brought to the humans.

@deepstrasz-2920

Needless to remind that in WcII it is mentioned that the high elves have druids)

@deepstrasz-2920

Orcs & Humans says the Clerics use the power of God which becomes the Light in RoC. Healing in WcII mentions the forces of light and purity. The manual for this game also talks about guardians with swords of light defending Heaven.

@deepstrasz-2920

If you check the human ending of Beyond the Dark Portal, and use some logic, you’ll realized there was no way to close the portal and at the same time send a gryphon rider with both the skull and the book. The skull was possibly found/taken by a demon and brought to Felwood for its corrupting attributes. It’s a bit far fetched since the world was supposed to be collapsing on itself so the Skull could have either be destroyed by the debris (maybe it was too powerful for that?) or engulfed by the earth or even get lost in space. Maybe, it was sucked in one of the rifts and that’s how it was found by a demon and given to a superior.
The book is not the same one. As Archimonde mentions: “the only remaining spellbook of Medivh, the Last Guardian.” Otherwise that would be silly. If we put the same SoG theory on this, a demon could have it instead or it could be lost/naturally hidden. So, I think Archimonde knows better.

@deepstrasz-2920

Also, more on WcII elves:
"The reclusive Elves of Silvermoon ventured forth from the shadowy forests of Quel’thalas to offer their services to the Alliance. Their magiks, so closely
tied to the forces of the earth, had shown evidence that the
Orcs had been defiling the very lands of Lordaeron
as part of their sinister plans."
As you can read, they were intended to be druidic in nature but they retconned that for the night elves to be so instead in RoC.

@deepstrasz-2920

ALLERIA
"The elusive Elven Ranger known as Alleria learned of the devastation the Horde
could bring as she searched for the remains of her family amongst the ashes of
the once glorious Quel’thalas. Her all-consuming hatred for the Orcs led her to
Azeroth where she leads an elite cadre of Rangers to hunt down the remaining Orc renegades of the Bleeding Hollow clan."

[Sildarion-2446]

I dont understand all those people trying to find a way for a wc4 to exist xD
They cant even deliver a WC3 remastered right. I mean it’s all there WC3 classic is right there you just have to deliver the same game update graphics add some more story lines and do some cinematics add some way to reconnect a game when dc. It’s impossible to f*ck it up and yet they manage to let everyone down.
My point is, you dont want a wc4 developed by this company which is all about greed and money anyway.
If you want a WC4 riot for CD Red Projekt or someone else to buy the warcraft franchise and then you can have something worth playing not that crap that is gonna be reforged or as i call it way for them to get 40$ out of everyone thanks to nostalgia without actually delivering any content.
I’d like to see a WC4 too but just not from Blizzard

[Balnazzard-2591]

Agreed not all of its bad, but much of it is, especially the major/main storyline/storytelling that has suffered heavily from the MMO concept.

Smaller storylines that have not so big impact on the overall lore are much better told in WoW though as there is more room for that kind of smaller side stories than there would have ever been in RTS game.

[Antonidas-21373]

I am sure we will get first and second wars as DLC.

[Antonidas-21373]

There is no need to retcon the heal. They retconned it back that elves taught humans arcane magic and they got heal from the Light(visions of naaru given to Mereldar) itself.

[Balnazzard-2591]

I dont know where your confidence on that is coming from, considering that remaking the first two games in Refroged would require so much more work than what Reforged itself required…and I think Reforged team already made clear that there would not be any new campaigns as DLC.

Only if Reforged would become suprisingly huge success (which sadly is very unlikely to happen), only then I could see Activision-Blizzard giving permission to add more content to Reforged.

[Antonidas-21373]

Well they could maintain Warcraft 3 gameplay with new story. There is no need for Warcraft 1 mechanics.

I am sure they will try to add content at least at the start. They need to make money.

[r3an1mated-2545]

@Fullmetal-21156

Wow lore is TRUE lore, wc3 lore is deprecated and sucks. I hate people like you, this game will have nothing interesting just because people like you.

Then you can stop visiting this forums and enjoy your World of Warcraft… Have fun my friend, and i hope you never return here

@anon64258002

Reforged and and alternative storyline is better

Hero we deserve!

@Sildarion-2446

If you want a WC4 riot for CD Red Projekt or someone else to buy the warcraft franchise

Who knows who will be owner if that ever happens…

[Lionhearte-1362]

@r3an1mated-2545

@KingOmelette-1782

World of Warcraft is part of the same series as Warcraft 3

So what? Just because it’s the same universe doesn’t mean both things are good.

Exactly vice versa, one is amazing, other is utter trash.

Give one (1) example of lore during the WoW era that you feel conflicts poorly with lore from the WC3 era, or that you just don’t like to begin with. Should be easy, since there’s tens of millions of lines of story in WoW. Pick one.

[KingOmelette-1782]

Can I just broadly gesture to Kael’thas’ “arc” from World of Warcraft as an example? Blizzard’s never really been great with the whole corruption/manipulation/generally goes crazy angle. We’re kind of shown that Kael’thas isn’t that kind of person even when pushed to the brink by the Scourge, but we leave him alone for a few years in Outland and he’s been scheming against Illidan and scorning his own people this whole time?

[Lionhearte-1362]

He was never corrupted/manipulated/crazy, though. His entire point of following Illidan was finding a new source of power for his people to feed on since the Sunwell was darkened by Arthas/Kel’thuzad.

I also don’t see how he was scorning his people, unless you mean the Scryer’s, which, to be fair, they betrayed him.

Still, I think the overall story is consistent with not only his character, being a Prince, him willing to do anything to save his people, and the general effects of Sunwell/Arcane/Fel relapse.

[r3an1mated-2545]

@Lionhearte-1362

Give one (1) example of lore during the WoW era that you feel conflicts poorly with lore from the WC3 era, or that you just don’t like to begin with. Should be easy, since there’s tens of millions of lines of story in WoW. Pick one.

Pardon me sir, but as i said before, I have become quite lazy…
but you can check couple of them yourself on this thread:

WoW lore vs Wc3 Lore

I’m mostly worried for the Easter Eggs in the levels. While I liked that they swapped bandits for orcs as a little touch, I don’t think it was as good as the Zoo. This, and some of the secrets (like the Secret Level you unlock in the Blood Elf prison level) were (imo) vital parts of making the campaign interesting, and made you explore the levels, rather than just blitz through them. (I’m fine with minor cosmetic changes to make the level designs smoother/more defined, so long as the actual leve…

A lot of pros and cons in both ways…

[Fullmetal-21156]

@r3an1mated-2545

Then you can stop visiting this forums and enjoy your World of Warcraft… Have fun my friend, and i hope you never return here

I will return here so much times as I want. I want warcraft 3 strategy with updated lore. I paid for remake, not a re-skin.

[Balnazzard-2591]

And I would say you had completely wrong kind of expectations then for the game considering that at no point were you promised a remake, but something that leaned much more towards to visual remaster above all else…So I say you only have yourself to blame for setting unrealistic expectations and making yourself to think that Reforged would be a remake, rather than a remaster.

[Antonidas-21373]

I really hoped that we will get fresh lore. I still believe we may get WoW story as DLC.