Hello, so Zerg vs Terran in 4v4.
Someone made zounds of Liberators. I lost my Mutalisks of course - no issues I said, I have enough resources so I will spawn mass Corruptors.
So I did. Then Corruptors just could not stand Liberators.
Another player had mass Hydras but of course snipe mode killed those.
Finally we won but on resources, and that terran had bad co-players. And that’s little bit noobish.
So what is the right way to counter Zounds of upgraded 3/3 Liberators?
Those spellcasting units you keep refusing to make. Theyre going to be the answer to literally anything in the air.
Vipers do not help here. Vipers maybe can help vs. 10 BC but - they drag few of them but not vs. 40+ Liberators.
And Infestor could not reach that base, just could not get close to them. The maps are not plain, and new maps are even more maze-like.
Another spell there is.
Vipers also cannot get near to cast Parasitic Bomb. Abduct works but terran will move also into my direction.
Vipers are expensive and relatively fragile.
You need to consider it in the context of mixed arms combat. Combine the two casters with a pack of hydralisks, for example, and the liberators either can’t defend themselves from the vipers or they get run over by the hydralisks.
Why not? Of course they can.
Man, that terran is not dumb. he put half of Liberators on Snipe half let in air, like this destroyed my co-player’s hydras.
Why? Because they were holed up in the base? In which case you win by doing exactly what your team did to win, out-macro them?
in theory. but in real game is hard.
yes finally we won on resources, killing all others then he gave up (gg+quit).
What do you mean in theory? Bomb has a range of 8, liberators have an air range of 5. Liberators arent fast enough to catch a viper that goes in, tosses out a bomb and immediately turns around, not without giving a very long chase.
That is exactly why its always possible for you. Even in pro matches you will see things happen that actually dont really make sense in theory. The game is hard. Meaning you can parabomb liberators. Try to fight them with corrupters. If they clump up you use parabomb and they die.
And yes, as others noted, the range is higher for parabomb than the AA of liberators. My response was generally meant as: even if you think things are always guarded perfectly like liberators being guarded by ghosts, there is still an opening for you as there are openings even on the highest level of play.
Liberators don’t have enough anti-air range for it to be “hard” to cast Parasitic Bomb. Other units or missile turrets in the way can make it hard, but if it’s just Liberators then it only takes very basic control to click on a Liberator before you’re in range of it so the Viper casts PB immediately when the Viper is is cast range. One shift-click away and it leaves the range of the libs so you don’t even have to sack the Viper.
I just ran a query on AI. Even AI said use better Abduct, and isolate one by one. Parasitic bomb not a solution , Liberators are spread, and if few damaged anyway their armor is better than the corruptors.
AI is dumb and you should feel bad for relying on it. Liberators don’t have a great AA attack. Large numbers of corruptors should be beating them in a straight up fight anyway, but a couple of parasitic bombs, especially before the engagement starts when theyre clumped up from moving, will decisively win the fight for you.
And no, corruptors have significantly better armor than liberators. What are you even talking about?
If they are spread they cannot deal with corrupters. If they are clumped, they cannot deal with parabomb.
Dont use AI. Think with your head.
Anyways like I said before: put some Widow mines, mass liberators than keep few thors in the back. Sure win against Zerg.
But I do not want to derail. In this case was just Liberators , maybe 2-3 Vikings but they died.
What? First of all, Corruptors have 2 base armor without upgrades, and Liberators have 0. If you’re talking about HP, Corruptors have 200 and Liberators have 180.
Second of all, Parasitic Bomb deals spell damage that ignores armor.
This is not my first game or first question. I have 2-3 scenarios that just defeats me. One of those is mass Liberators. Of course I asked AI. everybody is using AI nowadays.
But whatever, give a better solution pls. Thanks.