I leave it as a possibility, but psionic pushes are usually described in terms of telekinesis. Nova and Spectres always use “mental push” in terms of either that or telepathy (and only in scenes where it’s an actual physical mind lock, which this is not). In this case, taking its wording, it’s the most likely case that is is a push. We have a policy of taking things at its word. Since again as shown, we know protoss have telekinesis, there hasn’t been much dispute on its existence I’ve seen until this thread.
The Dark Templar Saga’s third book describes physical buttons when Jake enters the Void Seeker and sees its control panel (“buttons and indentations on an otherwise flat surface”) but usually it’s a holo panel. Which being fair is often the case for the terrans too, the shift to datapads for example, though of course they still have a lot more things with physical feedback like levers.
Curious. I wonder if that was an intentional stylistic choice for the protoss or just how it worked out due to lack of actually seeing them in direct control of stuff. before the SoA i think the only time we really actually see a protoss directly controlling a vessel is Tassadar in the Gantrithor, and he’s just on a platform.
I’m going to bet there was an intentional choice to shift to a more holographic display for them, like a means to distinguish them from the terrans. I know that was a big goal in LotV, though sadly there’s a criminal lack of Behind the Scenes commentary and comments for it compared to the other expansions (no direct cinematic commentary on the DVD), so we don’t have too much in the way of a look into their intentions when designing specific things.
Let us leave the existence of Protoss’ Telekinesis for now. That’s a whole can of worn that will simply confuse this topic. My point is that even if we are to assume that Gruu has Telekinesis, he can’t use it to operate Teleportation System.
For one thing, the comic shows that the method that Gruu uses is more of a hijack. His companion wouldn’t ask if this is a standard procedure. Since Gruu isn’t activating an emergency measure, then the only way this is possible is that the Teleportation System has a loose component. This idea is absurd. It is far more likely that he use some technopathy.
It’s not my place to tell you how to run your Wiki, but this policy is flawed. It’s certain that the Protoss, Terran and Zerg aren’t always literal. And yet, you interpret everything literally?
I can’t remember the source, but I’m sure it was described somewhere that the Protoss use intricate hand hand movement to operate their ship. Any idea where that is?
Yeah, I’m angry that instead of debating something interesting for once I spend hundreds of posts trying to convince people here of basic facts from the game because budging on the simplest issue is freaking inconceivable.
Of course, that’s why I’m not arguing about the existence of Telekinesis with Susourian.
Nor anyone else for that matter. I agree that it’s all Telekinesis by your definition. I agree that it’s all Telekinesis by deceinlycan’s definition. I agree that it’s all Telekinesis by Gradius’ personal definition.
I don’t agree with the one that Gradius brought up. And apparently, nobody does. Not you. Not I. Not the Emperor. Not derceinlycan. Not even Gradius himself.
It was very fun for me to Gradius desperately trying to save a position that he doesn’t even believe in himself.
Yes, but if you listen to other who speaks up so far; none of them actually agree with Gradius.
Also, I fail to see how this is relevant. Even if he is truly alone against us two, it doesn’t mean anything other than no one here is agreeing with him.
I think it’s been mentioned elsewhere but the one that sticks out in my mind is from Shadow Hunters when we see Jake and Rosemary get rescued by the Shelna Kry’has:
Rosemary watched them keenly, as their long, four-fingered hands moved fluidly over a console. They did not actually touch anything; it seemed the motions alone were sufficient.
But we also see Zeratul controlling the Void Seeker in a similar way in the intro for Dark Whispers, where his hands aren’t physically touching anything but inside some holograms.
Of course this does mean the same book trilogy that cemented hand motions describes the Void Seeker as having some buttons, but those could be for different purposes.
Nobody agrees with my definition of telekinesis that I copy/pasted straight from the dictionary? Ok. That must be why everyone and their dog is admitting the Protoss have telekinesis. It must be me who sucks at listening, whereas you’re infallible, lmao.
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Hey, remember that one time when you spent 300 posts denying that Protoss have telekinesis?
Okay, I just remember that there are two cases where I won’t accept as an example of Telekinesis.
The Levitation by Gravitational Nullification and the activation of Teleportation System.
Yep, just read everybody’s definition for Telekinesis. Nobody here can agree on what Telekinesis is.
Brother Bifrost: moving stuff with your mind.
derceinlycan: effect physical world with your mind, even thermal energy counted.
You: moving object with psionic energy somehow except for when it’s not?
You may think that this is frivolous matter, but I believe this is the core of communication. If we don’t talk about the same thing when we type ‘Telekinesis’, then how can we even talk?
Not to brag, but I know from the very beginning that this is the fundamental of our discussion. That’s why I asked it before everybody. You made fun of me for not being able to understand basic dictionary definition of the word. Look who is the stupid one, now?
Since you don’t understand how words work, let me break it down like I would for a five year old:
The dictionary definition is the default. When someone says a word, they are abiding by the social construct that words mean what they say they mean in the dictionary. Because humans aren’t mind readers, if someone has a different definition, it’s their job to specify. Otherwise words mean what they say they mean in the dictionary. Merriam Webster and other dictionaries all have roughly identical meanings for words.
Nobody has specified they’re using some alternate definition for telekinesis, so that means they’re agreeing with my default definition (which is pretty broad and encompasses all the examples everyone has given).
I picked the literal dictionary definition because I knew you would look like a joke when everyone admitted Protoss have telekinesis, which is what’s happening. You’ve lost, so stop replying, and just sit there and think about why you’re wrong. Get over your pride and learn some new information for once so that you don’t look like an idiot for next time.
