I swear to god, i can beat even 5600 mmr Terran, i beaten 10 of them like last year. But when i play against 4500 terran, game is harder, because they are gonna do stupid builds and random cheeses, which are hard to scout… I honestly wonder why Pros don’t cheese more, because there are so many cheeses, all ins and timings, which are hard, or even impossible to scout and can kill protoss instantly! You make disruptor it is banshee you autolose… But if it is thors you lose to without disruptor. While if you use your adept to scout tech you won’t see a third and good terran leaves at least hellbat in front of Terran base so probe scout for third doesn’t work. And sending one probe out early will slow you down, Protoss already can’t even produce constantly from his facilities, it feels like you have 0 money…
But than i play against 5600 and beat him and it feels easy. Than i play against 4500-4700 and game is much harder !!!
https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/14336114
IT is because there is almost no skill differentiation for terran, it is same player. Showtime said he can’t discern difference between 5500 and 6k terran. They both gonna have huge advantage and just make marines and quick third… I don’t know why i can actually beat GM players and game feels much easier than vs 4500 terran and than i lose to 4500 while not even playing badly…
Game is right now stupid, macro game is unplayable. Yet you have to 2 base all in every game, which is impossible to stop scout with blink, or warprism, or phoenix. But you will have hard time scout what Terran is up to!!!
Time to revert Terran economy buffs and buff colossus to HOTS. So normal macro game is playable!!! Right now games end abruptly to all ins and Terran is whatever he wants all game… Tos only win 2 code s… While PvT on top pro level is little bit better, because Pros can control protoss perfectly with difference on 0.08 s and have 300 epm+, but already if you look at 6k Protoss on KR, they are struggling against terrans…
There is great difference. Because Terrans playing with heavy weights. There is gigantic difference like between 5k terran and 5300 Terran. They have better kiting and multi-tasking and control… While for protoss they gonna have +30 units they don’t deserve and than a move of third. Even demuslim said that. While in HOTS, TvP was macro game, there were more aspects to the game, that these high level players would do differently/better. Maybe return to your cave bat…
You’re the player who literally whines about Protoss since forever and if i am not mistaken you are gold, or low silver… It is so so funny… So many people biased against Protoss…
You scouted his build order and upcoming attack, when you took the fights at your third all your zealots got bottlenecked by your own force field.
Your armor upgrade was late and was just barely not in time for the first engagement since you forgot about it for a long time.
If you honestly think its imballanced then send it to harstem is it imba or do i suck and im fairly sure he will pick you if you tell him your a gm player and all your frustrations.
Maybe you will be the first player to be right about your imballance assumption, if you dont believe you have a strong enough case then i dont understand why your making this post to being with.
Now you must write that the matchup is 50% skill 50% luck, that your adept scout gets denied and that is hard finding and defending terran proxies.
This thread is a parody of another one, but every whiner should send replays to harstem, would be nice to hear harstems thoughts about that there is no skill difference between players with a difference of 900mmr.
There is a difference. the 5000+ terran is really good at macro play. and at some point if you are going to advance you will need good macro. however, you have to get through the cheesers while macroing to get there.
If you are diamond like my self or below then you haven’t got the macro thing down to a science just yet. or having a difficult time in a certain match up when you both are equal skill and/or you still haven’t recognized certain builds that the opponent is doing… aka not enough scouting
1/10 troll, when you have disruptor, you should have already observator so you can just warp stalker. Except if your brain play at 1 APM like lot of protoss.
Nobody doing that xD. But btw scoot Hallucination / Observator.
No immortal and zealot destroy them too.
No you have to fast B3 because Protoss can take B3 and at the same time put a pressure on Terran with only 2 bases. Nice design …
I even don’t know why i answer to you, you are only trolling and you are a 3K mmr Zerg lol.
Haha, terran cries and spam emails to blizzard that they are not gonna win anything, how do you think we got terran buffs in first place… Pros want to win money and have to make living, so they naturally want their race to be best. Not saying all are like that, but probably a lot of them…
Acording to the OP, it seems to me that the difference between a diamond and gm is that, the diamond cannot stop a cheese and GM can (otherwise the OP would be GM already, right?), so there’s that.
People saying that “I lost to you but I am actually better, because you only cheese” are dumb.
Losing to a cheese means that the losing player either
lacks the skill to scout and/or defend the cheese, in which case he can’t claim to be the superior player, even if his macro was the best in the world, or
took the calculated risk of not being prepared for the cheese, to gain some advantage in their macro play or their own cheese. In which case they should not have reason to be salty or surprised when that did not play out.
Dude… If you are beating people better than you when they build normal but losing to people the same level or lower than you when they are building abnormally. Then your race is overpowered in terms of core game play. Honestly pretty simple logic here.
Demuslim is the largest balance whiner in the history of SC2. And this is being said with the context that within a month of launch, Artosis and IdrA created a show called “Imbalanced”. Demuslim is still whinier than that.