So many people lost after that famous 8 workers patch

no matter which server I play, one obvious fact is that I find so many people leave this game this month.

you have to wait much much more time to match a player in ladder game than before.

when peole are becoming silent and stop complaining, they use their feet to vote.

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Yeah thats true. Thats sadly the consequence of releasing pretty bad patches with the 8 worker start that really no one wanted.

Plus not only that they completly wrecked the balance, they made it even worse with the latest hotfix.

In the most active playerbase (diamond to gm), toss dropped from 29%-30% representation to 23%-24%.

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While I do think that some tosses might get cut out of the diamond league because of extremely bad balance, the majority of the change comes from protoss quitting the game. Obviously many zergs and terrans quit too, as the playerbase went down in general but the biggest change is in protoss players.

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I like the changes i quit Terran and the game years ago due to how much harder it was to play Terran and the fact they are always economically behind, this patch finally i feel like i dont have to do tons of damage early on with Terran just to be even.

worst patch ever

suck and boring

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I like it better than before

ZERG MASTER. now zerg platino 1

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Yeah this patch has been an unequivocal failure, and I wish they would revert it.

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some people loose but other win games.

What do you mean? Is this some English specific quote or? Sorry I am not native english.

Theyre walking out. They quit. They left. It’s like voting with your wallet, except since it’s a free to play game it’s attendance.

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ok thx for the explanation. Now is clear, and yes unfortunately people will quit gaming. :frowning:

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i even doubt the company want this game dead so that they can save more staff and resource to other field.

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No, I honestly doubt that. Keeping the servers on for sc2 isn’t costing them all that much, and they recently brought back the chinese servers, so killing the game is completely antithetical to what they want.

What it almost certainly is, is one particularly deluded person telling the intern “these are the changes you should make in the game” and getting them rammed through because he has more sway with blizzard than he should, and damn the consequences.

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Its a great patch people just need to learn to adapt,

btw i just switched to Toss from Terran and it feels like easymode has been switched on.

Feels like im crushing Zerg and mainly beating Terran.

The production speed buff is insane and it makes playing toss even easier , dont even need warpgates.

I don’t even bother with the 8 worker start now. I mean why would I? The game isn’t balanced currently and everything has been upended far too aggressively.

No fun to be had in getting swarmed by a cheesing zerg who made 35 lings before you can get a counter up and running.

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If you are a Protoss and you are not steamrolling Terran players, then you are probably handicapping your economy early on and not abusing the fact you can mass expand off of only one or two gates and get an unbeatable economy before Terran can do much about it. If you are too greedy then you can lose to a two base all-in but being good at Protoss implies having good scouting throughout the game so you don’t get caught off guard and you make the right counters. Also, the only Protoss players I have seen cry “oh TvP is so imbalanced for the Terran” literally just massed zealots, stalkers, and sentries and expected to beat a Tier 3 Terran army with just those three units. Once Protoss has an unbeatable economy early in the game, the Protoss player can just place random pylons around the map and instantly intercept everything Terran throws at them which forces the Terran to march straight through the middle of the map and then if the player even leaves one small space in your base without mass turrets, a single warp prism sends 50 zealots into your main instantly. Most Protoss that have left the game have left because of ZvP being imbalanced in favor of the Zerg because Zerg has map control in the early stage of the game so you can’t just mass expand with ease like you can against Terran.

Im a Terran player that just switch to Protoss and after 3 days i allready have nearly the same MMR as my Terran.

Toss is easier to play than ever Warpgate took way more skill now you dont need it because Protoss has insane production speed and you can just rally units across the map.

16 seconds to make a stalker, 30 seconds to build a marauder.

Even if the Terran wins the fight the next wave kills him.

Before Protoss needed more APM to offscreen with the warpins.

Now with Protoss i can literally AMOVE the battle set rally points for reinforcements and keep macroing while the Terran is struggling to micro everything in the fight just to survive.

Terran mech is a new prroblem because of the buffed thor which is have no figured out yet but my verdict playing Protoss is pure faceroll compared with Terran and i wont bother switching back to T

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Buffed Thor? Thors have not changed at all for many, many years when they went from 2 armor to 1 armor. What is this Thor buff you speak of?

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According to nephest you are a 3.4k mmr terran and a nearly 3k toss that lost to a couple of 2700/2800 zergs. Dang. Really proving a point, huh?

Wouldnt call that close to the terran mmr. But yeah. Maybe stop building cannons at around 4-5 minutes and you will surely improve.

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16 seconds to a stalker, 30 seconds to a marauder. Ok… what happens if you pit 1 stalker against 1 marauder? Or 5 stalkers against 5 marauders. Or even 10 stalkers to 6 marauders?

Maybe I am a n00b and that’s ok, but for the same army cost, my army of zealot-stalker looses against an army of marine-marauder. Every time. with basic, non-researched units. If we add there also zealot charge + stalker blink and also stim + medivac + concussive shells, it still is an even more terrible loss.

I literally just started playing Protoss for the first time in 15 years and TVP is my best winrate with around 70% now.

I will easily pass my Terran MMR in probably another week.

To me it feels like i just found easymode after 15 years of playing Terran , im really not sure what all the crying and whining is about