======= P1: Akhundelar
So his Arbiter suit has no cd (at least after its duration is up), which means you can spam it endlessly (assuming it doesn’t get destroyed). This wasn’t meant to be since it’s supposed to have the same cd as the others, but I recall they made an exception here for the purposes of game play?
So similar to how Zagara Mastery power set 1 went from “Zagara energy regen” to “Zagara and Queen energy regen” to give it more utility for her P1/Scourge Queen?
======= P2: Network Administrator
Is it worth leveling up his P2 on P2? It seems like his discounted units also needs the lv15 talent (Tactical Data Web) to overcome the (-)'s, and not be a miserable experience.
So it’ll be like Kerrigan’s P2/Folly of Man where it’s all behind her lv10 talent (Fury). At least here, from lv10, you still have half the prestige to level up (by XP count. It’s around 47% of the way there).
======= P3: Network Administrator
Ditto here as with his P2, but wait until lv11 talent (Avenging Protocol) unlocks?
I assume they were playing around with different changes to it, and accidentally left it in this way. There was a lot of concerns about how much it nerfed the Arbiter suit. But yeah, spam the crap out it, with the forge upgrade it does very respectable damage.
I just used P1, they’re just too weak until you get at or near lvl 15.
I think you can level P2 on P2.
It will get you used to the production speed he get, and it becomes better and better as you unlock upgrades.
Tactical Data Web is not a necessity.
For the powerlessness of units, well it’s like Abathur, except they supposedly can die, but they may not die that much, and while they try or not to die, the champions can do their thing.
At level 11, if you do manage to get your units killed, you will be glad you do thanks to avenging protocol, but that’s near the end of leveling.
For P3…hmm I would say another prestige, but I probably would say that even if it wasn’t for leveling lol.
For P1 you didn’t mentions if you were thinking of using it for leveling, but it can be a choice…after level 3, because having the arbiter with no CD is indeed something you may need to rely on. As for playing in general, it’s a different playstyle compared to P0, up to your liking.
It’s moot as I already leveled up his P1. I ended up just sticking with P1. I didn’t know it could be spammed on P1, so it’s not like I knew what I was missing out on. I just wanted it more so for detection (which is a cache talent on lv6 anyways). You get to lv3 and lv6 fairly quickly, so that ended up being a minor issue.
I think it mostly depends on your comfort level. Doing P2 and P3 via each prestige will undoubtedly be harder than P1 or P0 as a leveling-carryover. The reasons you’ve already indicated so you know exactly what you’ll be missing.
So yes, easier time doing regular P0 or P1. That said, not all that horrible either. I find it is always better to level through the prestige itself. It brings in a fresh perspective and naturally highlights its weaknesses. So you have a better understanding of the prestige itself.
The only real question is “do you want to go through it faster or do you care”?
I’m switching between the two for his P2. The units are cheap and spammable, but just can’t do enough damage at times. However, getting reacquainted with P0 has been nice.
P1 is good for leveling in general (if not his best prestige for that).
P2 is for when you want to play as as a Protoss Raynor, but with half the dps and twice the supply costs. In short: not worth it. But if you still want to use it before TDW, you need to get Talis’ Debilitating Glaive, as it will make your units able to actually do damage.
P3, despite lacking Avenging Protocol from the start, is still ok to level up with once you unlock the champions. While they don’t get any buffs yet and die much faster, you do get a refund when they die from level 1. If you can keep them in front of your deathball then you should be swimming in resources anyway. Other than that, it shouldn’t be any different than leveling on P0.
This is absolutely untrue. Half damage units + half HP = 4x weaker units, for only half the price. You’re never supposed to use actual ordinary units as P2, just heroes. It makes no sense to use P2 while leveling, since tactical data web is an absolute necessity and the whole point of the prestige
Nice paper answer, exactly what I thought that made me doubt the appeal of this prestige, long before I actually got to try it.
Prestiges not working the way one would expect (and possibly the ways the devs expected) is surprisingly common.
I can tell you that I leveled through all prestiges. And P2 is definitely weak af. For the ordinary player, I’d say they will have a very bad time. So stats on paper or in-game, 4x weaker is still true. You can mitigate that 4x to a theoretical 2.5x weaker by great macro (as the units are also cheaper). Nevertheless, one to one comparison they are definitely crap.
In terms of scale, it is still better than the original P2 Vorazun. Fenix P2 has the fortunate saving grace of non-affected champions and Fenix himself. So that alone makes up for many situations. Comparatively, the old 50% P2 Vorazun was exactly the same, as her units are generally flimsy. And that made it very difficult.
Even with my experience, I found leveling through both of these P2’s, I could not carry my ally. At best, I could do my share. With maybe Fenix P2 more on the 65% side of it.
Yea, leveling P2 Fenix is terrible. It SOUNDS like it’d work even without your buffed champions, but no oh no. There’s just no damage at all. Tried to cheat the system and went mass carriers? Great, they can’t do any damage to BC’s, Thor’s, or anything else that has some armor. About the only unit I could get to somewhat work was with Talis and immortals, since they have both the shields and a bit higher damage than other units.
It’d be nice if the damage nerf didn’t effect Disruptors as well.
P0 or P1 for leveling. Mass carrier beats every map at every Fenix level. You also have to remember that you get paired with people at similar levels so you might have to do some carrying. Good luck carrying with low level P2.
I tried to chase down a train on Part & Parcel. It was taking damage, but man the hp went down slow. Train managed to get away with around 700hp. And that was from having several thousand or so
