The way the Corsairs and Valkyries “counter” Mutalisks is very different.
Corsairs and Valkyries deal half damage to Mutalisks, so they are not a good counter until the opponent starts massing Mutalisks. In fact, most Brood War anti-air units do explosive damage in Brood War and that is one of the reasons why Mutalisks (a small unit that took half damage from explosive) are so strong in Brood War. Brood War Mutalisks effectively have twice the health of Wraiths in most cases.
For a direct comparison, Corsairs have about a third of the DPS against individual Mutalisks that Phoenixes do now.
The main thing about Corsairs and Valkyries is that they have splash, divided into 100%, 50%, and 25% damage zones. This makes them very effective against massed air units, which more or less prevents mass air from becoming a problem in Brood War. The full damage is only dealt in a tiny 0.15625 radius square (it was squares rather than circles in Brood War), while half damage is dealt in a 1.5625 radius and quarter damage is dealt in a 3.125 radius. The large outer radius allows the opponent to mitigate splash damage (but not prevent it) by splitting.
8 mutas didn’t stop Stats’ aggression. Stats couldn’t be aggressive because he was behind in every way imaginable. Serral was ahead in every way imaginable and he went mutas and wasted 1000 gas to kill 7 probes. He did kill one prism but that’s still nowhere near the cost of 1000/1000.
And your stupidly long reply has nothing to do with the point i made. Nobody asked you for a recap of damage stats, I’m fine reading your self absorbed, useless long winded posts.
Mutalisks are a small unit (equivalent to light). They take 50% damage from “explosive” attacks.
Corsairs and Valkyries use the “explosive” damage type. They deal 50% damage to small units, 75% damage to medium units, and 100% damage to large units.
You are just factually wrong here. Maybe you should try reading sometime, you might not feel the need to adamantly defend false claims.
Are you not capable of pre positioning? Are you like alpha Star, no object permanence? Mutas leave your screen and youre like ‘time to leave my mineral line unattended’
Go watch Serral vs Classic or was it Serral vs Trap…(.it doesn’t really matter) and see how useless Mutas really are.You forum wоrms are just bad,take notes from the top Zergs and learn something.
Lmfao. Masters frame = just bad. xD
No one ever said mutas were so bad that it’s impossible to win a game using them lol. You can win games with pure drones if you’re that much better than your opponent, and serral is the best player in the world right now.
You’re gonna need a grabber arm if you wanna reach that far.
You’ve always used that excuse anytime someone does something that goes against what you think is possible. When Serral is the best player in the world and apparently uses the worst strategies to win… maybe they’re not bad strategies?
Well i guess they not really asking for a buff but more a redesign to get them to see more often since its a high risk unit at the moment while everyone pre-prepares for it because it can be really game ending
That’s how blind you are, you did see the damage that Serral did himself but not the damage that Stats suffered:
Serral forced static defense out of Stats.
Serral got a lot of map control that he shutted down the archon drop treath that was forced to defend the mutas.
Stats had made a lot of sentries and was ready to a immortal push but he completely abandoned his mid game agression to jump into the lategame due to Serral’s map control with the mutas.
Stats got suply block due to spending apm defending the mutas, we are talking about STATS GETTING SUPLYBLOCK.
Stats in the lategame couldn’t even harass with the prism and was 3 or 4 prisms that died to mutas that game.
Thats why the stargate opening is the safest protoss opening vs zerg, because of mutas, that’s how deadly they are.
But even with stargate openers can die to mutas, watch this game one:
That’s what happens when you doesn’t scout mutas, deny their map presence and still try to push. I’m ready to see you argue that showtime is a bad player.
Mutas are viable, they are high risk/high reward, a well balanced unit the way they are.
Lmao yes I am blind because clearly mutas are viable since they force the protoss to make some cannons. Great argument. Everything else you listed had nothing to do with the mutas and even the static defense is arguably just for runbies and nydus protection. Mutas are an inferior option compared to every other option and the only reason serral got away with it is because he was hugely ahead. The mutas did virtually nothing to further his lead in fact it just slowed his tech down which put him behind compared to where he could have been. If he did that in a game where he was equal or behind, he would lose. In fact, exactly that has happened between stats and serral before!
In what world Serral was ahead? What game are you talking about? Not 2019 ROG Serral vs Stats, that game was in the beginning and Serral opt for mutas because he scouted a robo opening, there was no lead whatsoever for Serral nor for Stats.
Also, you are so delusional that protoss don’t build cannon and batteries for nydus defense if they don’t scout nydus or anything that resemble nydus all in build from the Zerg, the most defensive they can be against it is to put an immortal or zealots on patrol in the main, and why would build a cannon/battery in the natural and third be a defense for nydus?
You clearly don’t have any clue of what you are talking about.
