Im really beginning to hate Blizzard now

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Everything good or fun, they change it. Tell me WHO asked for these new forum changes. Name just one single person that did. I liked my old name, I liked having a separate posting name from the other forums. I used to be Mandalorian as my account name here and now it is the same as my Wow forum name.

You know what Blizzard is going to do about this? They are going to ignore it. They don’t give a damn about their company anymore, they’ve made it quite obvious.

I don’t want hearts on everything and zero dislikes. I really do not care if someone dislikes what I have to say. That is simply their opinion and that means that it is different from my own.

I don’t like getting blue circle spam next to my name 24/7 either. I am capable of finding who replied to me without this highly juvenile setup that we have here.

Like hearts, really? I don’t LOVE every single post out there. Sometimes I simply just plain like it. I don’t need to heart everything. Sometimes I dislike something. I wish it were still possible to show that I do, but I cannot.

WHY the back to back changes that NO ONE asked for and yet the majority of us end up really disliking.

My goodness. There most likely will not be a StarCraft 3… its going to be a decade soon that SC2 came out and there is nothing to it, WoW is dwindling. Diablo’s latest release wasn’t even able to make it to the PC, had to go mobile. So with this current trend of things, Id give Blizzard oh maybe 5 or 10 years before the company calls it quits and goes belly up. And they didn’t even release the necromancer to be as good as it was in D2. The skeletons are very limited and the golems are not the same. The bone shield is also worse. it seems like a downgrade if anything. And Wizards can only be men. It is grammatically incorrect to have a female wizard as wizard literally means wise-man. There are female only spell casters even besides witches……

There really has been zero recent changes that the majority has asked for.

A tad bit of advice for those at Blizzard, next to your team is wanting to do a massive change… conduct a poll. WoW was destroyed, StarCraft only really got the Mission Packs to follow SC2 and then they called it quits.

Warcraft 3 is coming out with a Reforged Edition when that takes very little effort at all. I would rather have seen a Warcraft 4 come out that had those good graphics seeing as how WC3 can still play on anyone’s computer just fine.

I give the company 5 years left at a minimum and 10 years left at a maximum. That’s just my prediction with the way things are going because every single recent change has been for the worst. You will never see me posting on this forum ever again and that’s a promise.

My like to dislike ration tells me how good I am doing on these forums and whether I should continue posting in the same manner or change things. But now the only way to know that is if I go and look at every single answer.

Blizzard…come on grow up, we as players are able to handle downvotes and blurred out posts as well as upvotes instead of hearts. it tells us just how good or bad we are doing. As stated earlier, this is my first and last post on these new forums.

You know the old saying if its not broke, don’t fix it, you’ll break it. Yea, yet another fix that no one asked for.

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You know what Blizzard is going to do about this? They are going to ignore it.

You ignored it first. I did warn you, but you didn’t care to listen.
I blame the lot of you for what happened today.

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I think it’s a good change, the down-voting on the old forums was really toxic.

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These forums are a massive improvement. Lots of new features. I have nothing but gratitude for these changes.

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Seeing buried posts brought me joy

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This is a huge improvement in my opinion, having an EU account. Now I don’t need another account for posting on US forums!

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Good god it’s a forum change. You need actual life problems to deal with.

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What were we going to listen to? It was coming whether or not we or anyone else liked it or not. All Bliz forms are going over to it. SC2 just was able to hold out longer than most.

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Dude,we emoji now :dancing_men::dancing_men::dancing_men::dancing_men::dancing_men:

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Theres one thing Im going to miss, and thats the ability to ignore posters so we never have to read their posts. Can we have that back?

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I had only about 4,000 posts but I had a few that got buried pretty deep. I made two really stupid posts here about a year ago. One was my objection to making StarCraft 2 Free To Play. That one got over one hundred downvotes and less than 10 likes but I was okay with that.

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The new forum is good, in the sense that it is pretty toxic of the community to downvote anything you don‘t like, even if it‘s true.

On the other hand this carebear mentality that nobody should be hurt with downvotes disgusts me even more. The fact that political correctness and people with absolutely no spine and tenacity entered the gaming world is pretty sad.

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I’m really wondering why you guys expect someone to ask you for things like this? it’s a decision made on a different level and it doesn’t even have anything to do with SC itself. They’ve decided to update all forums and they will (in fact I think only D3 is with the old one, even SC:R is updated). Things are changing, learn to adapt to the changes otherwise we’d still using OS from the 90s.

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I cannot address a tenth of your post as it’s all over the place, but the old forums were broke. For some reason or another, searching for posts didn’t work. Google nearly did a better job in searching for old posts, which it indexed from battle.net, so I’m glad they fixed up the forums, though I do miss my 9,000 post count from all my many Bnet posts over the years.

Change doesn’t have to come because someone asked for it, and the change of the SC2 forums was simply a logical progression from changing all the other forums to standardize web links and integrate the games into one easy flow. And there’s some good changes to the forums.

If I was to click Forum at the top of this page, it’ll leave this page but keep my post I’m typing here right now. I bet I could even go find another thread and quote something here. One moment…

Yep. It works. I’m looking at one of your other threads. It did put the quote at the very top, but meh. And all I need to do now is click the blue link to jump back to the thread I’m currently commenting in (ctrl + a,c just in case).

Yep. That worked too! I’m back in this thread now. That’s cool! I actually want to comment on the threads more with all the new changes. As for your name change, I don’t get it. My WoW account name is TemplarLykos. My SC2 in game name is Lykos#745, but overall, my BattleTag is Lykos#1124, which is probably why I’m Lykos here. HolyTemplar is probably your BattleTag.

You can go into account settings and change it for free if you haven’t already. Anyways I’m gonna see if I can level up here some. This is the only game forum I’m most interested on doing that.

Also hurrah! I can actually tab to the reply button, which was broke on the second to last into the last forum iteration! {tab} {space}

Also edit hurrah! Apparently my level, which may have come from the other forums, I don’t know, allows me to post hyperlinks already. Groovy.

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Yikes… these forums have been a thing for like an entire year on the other platforms. It’s designed for mobile (I would assume they did analytics and realized most people use their phones to post here) … in before don’t you guys have phones meme but yea I mean you’ll get used to it and it’ll be fine.

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A wild voice of reason appears.

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People can still express that they disagree with you, they just can’t do it anonymously any more. It’s the difference between fighting in a boxing ring where you face your opponent and someone in a crowd punching you in the kidneys from behind. If anything the “carebare” mentality has been protecting THESE people and those protections have simply been stripped away.

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How were the toxic people protected with downvoting? I found that the toxic people usually accumulated the most downvotes (but that never stopped them anyways).

A mighty interesting observation is that the forums do genuinely seem less toxic, but the sample size here is small and time will tell if it remains true.

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It’s the anonymity factor that means people aren’t invested into the conversation. If people aren’t invested into a conversation it means there is no risk. No risk is synonymous with enabling bad behavior. Consider three examples:

First, it made it easier for trolls using multiple accounts to mass-downvote others. Now they have to invest something into the conversation that at a bare minimum will make their trolling/brigading very obvious (through revealing their accounts).

Second, there were trolls who would spit some pretty nasty stuff and people could endorse them and egg them on without investing in the conversation. Now if somehow vehemently attacks you and 10 people upvote it then they are publicly endorsing the content of that post. As far as I see it, there is no effective difference between having written such a nasty post and having endorsed it. Now people cannot promote offensive content without putting their name on it.

Third, because there is no investment, people can use it to be incredibly petty over things that don’t really matter and that increases the frequency of abuse. There should be some impedance there so that people can only engage over things that matter. When there is no risk they can do it freely, even in conversations they don’t care about, which opens the floodgates to flaming and trolling.

I’ve already noticed instances of new scenarios, that are similar or analogous to the above scenarios, producing wildly different behavior in cases where, on the old forums, it would have produced some pretty ugly results. For example, there were posts on the old battle.net doing “call-outs” which are against the Code of Conduct that would get hundreds of upvotes. One just recently happened on the new forums and it got ZERO likes and the OP was shamed into editing his posts to retract his statements. In the previous system I guarantee, 110%, that it would have received tons of up-votes.

With regards to my point in this thread, about how the old system “carebared” these people - it essentially did because now these poor things actually have to make a post, reveal their identity and articulate their point instead of an anonymous vote and they are outraged at this atrocity. The old system “carebared” people who don’t actually want to contribute to the conversation.

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Instead what you will see now is mass flagging on posts as they do on the wow forums, though to make it worse, there you could/can use every alt to flag a post until it was taken down.

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