Zennyatta/doomfist vs briggite/tracer?

what is the diference?

briggite was changed because she hardcounter so hard the flankers… but what about doomfist against heros like zenyatta?

is the same thing and maybe worse…

no one hero should hardcounter other hero…

Brig countered an entire meta. She basically was the catalyst of GOATS.

So not the same thing.

Brig mains are going to kill me aren’t they?..

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Doomfist has already been nerfed multiple times to try and remedy the interaction between him and zenyatta/ana

Also Pharah whos been in the game since launch vs every close range hero


To be fair, they have already nerfed Doom because of his interactions with Zen and Ana. Remember when his ult, which is really bad in the grand scheme of things, was nerfed because it could guarantee a kill on Zen and Ana?


  • Seismic Slam
    • Victims no longer lose air control while being pulled in.
  • Meteor Strike
    • Inner ring damage radius increased from 1.5m to 2.0m. This is the ring where Meteor Strike deals its full 300 damage.
    • Max damage outside of inner ring decreased from 300 to 200. This is the ring where damage falloff happens, which still reduces the damage down to 15 at max range.

The Meteor Strike changes will make it harder to secure a ‘free’ kill on heroes without mobility such as Zenyatta or Ana, while still preserving its max potential damage when aimed well or when combined with other abilities such as Graviton Surge or Sleep Dart.

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She was NOT changed because of that.

She was changed because she was wrecking the non flankers.

She was designed to wreck flankers, since she is one of the support counters to the mobility flankers.

Her job was to counter flankers.


Doomfist also destroy tanks xd

Anyway no one hero should hardcounter other heros

This is all a moot conversation…Tracer’s going to destroy everything after the PTR goes live…

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Agreed. Or at least hero’s that hard counter others should be niche with hardcounters themselves…

Also easy to play hero’s shouldn’t be meta ever or else ppl feel robbed of their value at all levels of play and players get boosted

Well, yeah, they’re both terrible designs. The only reason why Brig was more of a focus was because she was not only the worst design the game has ever seen, she was also the least balanced hero ever.

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Hahaha on someway is true.

They will put tracer on the opressive lvl of doom, widow and hanzo.

We can’t win the 1v1.

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