Zarya nerf? lol

This is so dumb aff. Just revet the changes to who can escape it

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Half the size would be 4m, it went from 8-6m but most situation would still have Zarya use her ult at close ranges, so that 6m is still pretty large.

This needed to happen. This will separate the mediocre Zarya’s from the good ones.

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Can you link the changes being discussed? I’m interested. o_O

That’s not how radius changes work. The further out you get the faster the area/volume (for a sphere) increases. Grav is less than half as big as it was now.

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Here.

Plenty of other changes aside from supports, like Hanzo and Widow nerf to their mobility.

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As a zarya main, when i read this i was angry. Zarya is not good unless you play these exact 5 heroes around her. But after thinking about it, zarya was not viable before this strat. This change will move her more to the damage tank role and less to a grav bot.

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I thought bubble + energy management + tracking was what seperated them.

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It’s actually pretty good! her lower charge loss compensates for the grav nerf! i can keep energy wayyy more consistently now

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I know how it works, I one-trick Junkrat.

Even then, I’m saying that, in most situations, Zarya often uses the grav really close to catch the important targets.

It’s sucky, but I believe the ult is still strong and do work. The decay being shortened means Zarya can maintain that high charge longer.

Oh for sure, those are still things that apply. I was meaning in the sense that you need to be better with Graviton placement for it to be effective. Generally, you always want to grab the healers.

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I imagine you can still catch 2/3 people, but I think 6 man gravs are going to be gone from higher level play. GG to people that need it for achievements.

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I thought you needed to catch 4 people?

But that’s probably why its an achievement, gives you something when you get it.

While overall a good thing, I do think it’s the wrong move much like a lot of their other changes. Hanzo and his Ult are OP, so lets nerf Zarya because she can help him make it more OP under the perfect conditions.

You know all enemies within LoS, close together, Dva to eat it, mei to wall it off etc Zen to trans. Sure you can’t stop the dragon with a Mei wall but if it blocks LoS from the grav it won’t pull you in.

The charge thing is nice because it really sucked how easily you lost charge. In fact team wipes hurt Zarya so bad because if the enemy team regroups by the time they arrive your at low or no charge.

But the ult nerf just feels like kicking a dead horse with Bliz again nerfing the side effect of an OP move and not the cause. Zarya might get 2 gravs a match, unless it’s super long or the enemy are constantly feeding her (with no shields to protect them). To say two potential team wipes carry the game is a joke.

It’s the other 5 dragons Hanzo will put out in the mean time without Grav that cause the most trouble.

Here’s the full quoted post

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I agree with this. While it’s a buff to her gun, the reason she’s picked right now is her ultimate and how well it pairs with Hanzo.

Once Hanzo is no longer meta, and that is going to happen between his nerfs and other heroe’s buffs. And Hammond potentially ushers in the next age of triple dive tank, especially with Brigitte being nerfed and Ana/Lucio receiving buffs. And the counter meta comp will probably be Orisa / Hog.

Zarya will need another buff because deathball won’t be as viable as bunker or dive.

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It’s a net buff, I’ll take more charge, damage and ultimates in exchange for a weaker ultimate, as long as Graviton Surge can capture at least two enemies on average then it’s going to have value for an ultimate follow up.

Between this and the Lucio buffs triple and quad tanking is looking better and better, and trust me the nerfs to Hanzo are doing nothing to his pick/win rates so the combo isn’t going anywhere.

Don’t forget Graviton Surge received a pretty huge buff a few month ago, not allowing escape abilities. Graviton surge is one of the few abilities that has very little counterplay, regardless of the grav-dragon meta I don’t think reducing the radius is such a bad thing. Then again I’m not a Zarya player at all so It’s easy for me to talk, but It’s a fair opinion imo

I don’t know I think Zarya and Hammond will work well together. At least so far in that he gives her a prime target to bubble, one that doesn’t risk dying to easily and has a huge hit box to block more shots with.

Against Hammond though Zarya’s at a pretty big disadvantage. He has far to much HP and mobility for Zarya to ever be able to kill him and he lacks any real high burst dmg to get much charge off him if you bubble some one. Even without a high shield boost I think Hammond will be able to kill Zarya faster than she can kill him, even with high charge.

While that’s the case, Zarya can also get high charges very quickly from Hammond if she bubbles target Hammond aim for. Hammond can get some ridiculous barrier shield, Zarya equally can shred Hammond quite fast.

Zarya has a slight upper hand against hammond, but that’s my opinion though.