Zarya metas are honestly disgusting

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Many heroes are q to win

Genjis is like that too should we nerf him? Rein is exactly like Zarya and I would argue that rein gets better shatters than most gravs

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To be honest, that’d work.

Make Zarya’s ultimate have counterplay, but make it strong without followup ults.

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The ignorance in this topic is insane

A) You spent 50% of your time charging and 50% tanking, this alone make zarya the more complex tank to play

b) Zarya need mechanical-skills and gamesense compared with Winston, Reinhard, Dva or Hog need prettymuch “only GAMESENSE”

C) Zarya ult charge is very slow and you need expose urself too much, in order of charge a bit faster. Many times this kill you

Zarya is the only tank truly need mechanical-skills so let in peace her lol

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“Getting Grav’d feels like crap.”
“Getting stunned feels like crap.”
“Getting headshot feels like crap.”
Etc.
I think what all these statements actually mean is, “losing feels like crap.”

It already does have counterplay. Zenyatta/Lucio immediately come to mind.

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Genji and Rein’s are both manageable using movement abilities. You can also quite easily kill Genji or use barriers or cover to negate Rein’s.

Zarya’s is quite unique in its lack of counterplay. No cast time, effect goes through walls and barriers, killing or CCing Zarya won’t save you, mobility doesn’t really help, etc.

Strong ultimates are fine, but Zarya’s is a different league of no counterplay.

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If an ability grants invulnerability, such as Wraith form, Recall, Translocator, or fade, then it should allow you to escape. If not, such as guardian angel, then you should be stuck

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Mass rez ? :o

Ah, no. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Currently the advice from top players is to just die quickly and to use those ults afterwards to win you the next battle, as they’re so ineffective at saving people in grav.

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Zen counters grav

its when it’s combined with ults that makes it strong doesn’t mean we should nerf Zarya

I would rather want them to buff Lucios and zens ult over nerfing a perfectly balanced hero

Also it’s not hard to eat grav with dva I’ve done it many times

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Which to be fair is due mostly to Dragonstrike dealing as much damage as it does. Nerfing Dragonstrike would make Transcendence perfectly fine as a counter ult.

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Even if Zen and Lucio COULD negate gravitron using their own ultimates, that’s still substantially less counterplay than other offensive ultimates have.

You can survive nearly everything with mobility or barriers or CC or cover.

Not gravitron though. For some reason with gravitron people are ok with it being using this one (or two) specific heroes and making them spend their ultimates to maybe have a chance of saving your tanks.

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Agreed. It’s actually kind if nerve wracking because you need to stay within range and wait for her to open her mouth without overextending and demeching. You have like a split second to react and a good Zarya can take advantage of it.

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If your arguemnt for nerfing it is that it has no counter play

What about nano blade? That thing wipes out everyone if you don’t have a zen or a lucio

Shouldn’t mean we should nerf Ana

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Nanoblade is counterable using damage, CC and mobility.

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Genji is one if the most mobile heroes in the game you cant just outrun him when he dashes towards you

Damage doesn’t matter because he will kill you before you can do anything

The only cc ability that stops it is sleep, good luck hitting that

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Lots of heroes can escape his reach before he kills them.

Moira, Lucio, Tracer, Sombra, Pharah, Winston, Doomfist, D.Va etc.

Certainly just using wasd doesn’t work on its own, but all the same.

Damage definitely works if your team focus fires him.

CCs beyond sleep work. Try booping him as Lucio then speedboosting the team away (that’s what I always did when it was meta). Try a Roadhog hook, rocketpunch or charge if you can land it. You can also spend ultimates like earthshatter or gravitron or whole hog too.

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Well… I do agree more heroes need to be able to escape or counter it. I am tired of the slippery characters always the ones getting the buff.

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Trans does NOT counter a Grav, it counters the follow up damage. You’re still stuck in place for 4 seconds whether you have Trans or not. The simplest way to illustrate this is a Riptire into a Grav. Does Trans counter Grav then? No, because it can’t counter the follow up burst damage(Riptire). A REAL counter is eating it with Matrix, but how easy is it to bait now on 2 seconds?

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Alright I’m gonna do the same with Zarya

Pharah is never cought in grav, widowmaker is never cought, tracer is never cought etc

Many heroes are not even near Zarya when she gravs so counter play still possible

Just bop hanzo away so he misses his dragon

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That’s generally due to prioritisation on Zarya’s part than counterplay.

If you wanted to hit within 8m of Tracer, Pharah or Widow it wouldn’t be hard to do so. It’s just you get more value out of uncounterably killing more people.

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