Yes, but also no.
Everyone’s selfish but at least their selfishness now doesn’t always mean you take an L.
If I have a mobile tank like ball or monkey, I’m going to be using them a lot.
I’ve watched enough OW2 gameplay already to see that this is going to be an issue.
Especially with the flanker fest OW2 is looking to be.
If all the roles are fun, there is no queue problem.
But that’s not what I’m seeing at all.
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So healers have to learn to aim and take duels instead of running to mommy Rien? LOL cry more.
As a support main I feel very sad, but I’ve felt this way since 5v5 was announced.
I just hope I’ll be able to enjoy myself and be happy playing PVE.
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Nah, I will ez clap the dps in my lobbies. I am not afraid of taking duels. I am afraid of being forced into becoming a Lucio one trick so that I am on a hero capable of disgracing them.
I could go Zen, but all of the 2v1 trades would start to bother me when I could just win the 2v1 instead. Ayy
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Any hopes for PVE thou?
I will only give PvE a look if they very explicitly announce that PvP and PvE balance will branch out and stay separated forever.
I don’t want my PvE Reinhardt losing shield because of a PvP balance.
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Just as I want Orisa’s Protective Barrier back for PVE
Here are my 2 cents after reflecting for a while:
So… as a support player I’m not a fan of what I have seen today.
Seems to me that the ones more excited about the future state of the game ar PVP Dps players, that don’t really care about teamplay, and… if they are not into PVE they will likely skip purchasing OW2.… you know, because PVP -even new heroes and maps- will be mostly free to them if they already own OW1; so why bother?
My reccomendation for my dear devs is that they make a GREAT PVE game, where:
- Tanks can actually feel powerful and tanky and use barriers to protect their teammates
- Support heroes get to be impactful without feeling like the main target all the time (basically playing a respawn simulator)
- Dps heroes get to be unique, whacky and with broken abilities
- We get back removed abilities with the talent system (I’m looking at you, Proctive Barrier, Lvl 3 Turret, and Mass Rez…).
It’s us support and tank players that will actually be purchasing OW2 for the PVE content.
I really hope you will not let us down.
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There is zero chance that PvP and PvE will use the same balance. None.
PvE will be using a talent/skill tree, for starters…
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Or they do not want to cause too much uproar by showing it.
Just flying away, screw your duels. Not interested in fight, where opposite side holds all the cards.
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I wouldn’t put it at zero. Since they are sharing the same client, it’s possible they’ll use the base PvP stats for PvE, and add the talent tree on top of it. This means if they adjust anything in the PvP side, it will affect the PvE side as well.
Sure, any smart developer will notice how dumb it is, and will keep things separated. But we are talking about Blizzard here. They already burned up through all the good will they built in the past decades.
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As someone who still plays SCII PVE semi-regularly, they use completely different balance sets. I very highly doubt that they’d share PVP/PVE balance. In fact, it would go a long way with the community if they brought things that were removed from PVP and have them put in PVE (Mercy rez, Sym 2.0, Torb lvl 3 turret, Orisa shield, etc.)
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That’s my hope. Still, I want that explicitly said before I even humor the thought of buying OW2.
Everyone have their line in the sand. This is mine.
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Fine, 99.99999999%
It means that they’d share a common state at launch. That’s it. There’s absolutely no reason that they’d have to keep the two branches aligned in this area into the future.
I know people want to hate on them, but come on. We’re talking about two totally different types of game here.
Freaking lol. I don’t even touch tank anymore. It wont matter how dpsy you make the other roles, nobody will voluntarily play worse dps.
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These people are, as has always been apparent, massive trolls. Their mask is more transparent by the day. I’ve always known it though.
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Keep doing that please as it will eventually make this game more and more the way players like me would enjoy.
No it wont. The logic doesnt even track on your end. If 80% of all players are dps players, because the supporting and tanking sucks, then making those other roles closer to dps is going to drive those same players to the real dps further. You are daft, honestly.
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Its not team deathmatch theres just individual play essentially you cant beat a team 2 Ranks higher than you just by coordinating better.
Theres skill outplay too if two Plat teams go against each other though the team with better cordination will still win
Its just not as extreme you can tell you still need cordination because if monkey dives by himself he will get blown up thats why they added pings it helps with coordination so the team dives together.