Only engagement support ult. Brigs rally.
Look through the top500 for Beta.
The ladder is dominated by Ana, Moira, and Baptiste in this order. Mercy is the worst main healer atm. Players who primarily play Mercy don’t even make up for 10% of the leaderboard.
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literally every other main support has that wat?
bap has 100% dmg boost which is really good,ana has nanoboost which is also really good at engaging, the only ult worse than mercy’s is brig’s ult.
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Strange before beta I recall Mercy begin second best support in GM.
I never have seen her as such and main healer didn’t exist before this. While I totally get the value of perspective and how design plays to a hero, you have mercy who was forcibly buffed into the role she has.
Say they lost Rez and got a bubble instead and played that to her ult.
Defensive ult, proactive ability … That’s an off healer. And a defensive ult is probably the thing many people miss about mercy. Protecting her team…
This isn’t the same as a “main healer” which isn’t defined by a defensive ult…
You can have your issues…but to say she is in need of buffs over perception is just as flawed as “she needs mass Rez gone because it hurts feelings”
None of those are the best at being an engagement utility.
Sure, nanoboost has some offensive usage (the only viable I recall being nanoblade…?), but it is also used a lot as a defensive utility. Same goes for Baptiste to increase his healing. Same goes for Brigitte, but her ult is garbage in both ways so whatever.
Try using Mercy’s ultimate defensively. Spoiler alert, it won’t work.
and how is mercy’s ult best at engagement, im just gonna ask have you ever tried healing through a grav with mercy’s ult without a 2nd ult being thrown into the grav?
they just die its not enough healing to sustain them nor is it any engagement.
Now I’m wondering what you think “engagement utility” means, because you’re asking me here if I ever tried to use it defensively, which I said it doesn’t work that way.
I don’t think you realize how strong AoE damage boost/healing is when pushing through a choke point.
so basically, we’re talking about offensive engagement here?
literally this:
Yes, to engage usually means to be aggressive/offensive. At least in overwatch’s comp terminology.?
If a characters has a niche and that niche is currently meta (bunker) it usually results in a high pickrate and balanced to high win-rate. Baptiste has neither, Ana especially and partly Mercy is outperforming him where he is supposed to be strong.
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just simply not gonna agree with you that mercy has a better ult than a nano or a 100% boost wall, not in engagement nor defense, just as you said nano CAN be used as a defensive utility but for the most part its almost always used for offensive utility, same with baptiste his ult is used mostly in offensive ways, i rarely see people using bap’s ult just for healing.
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Did you check the stats since 2-2-2? Mercy and Moira are just behind Ana in terms of pickrate according to omni but I’m not even sure they are really up to date either.
If you checked Overbuff you got it wrong since they haven’t updated since the beta.
Mercy is fine.
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If it continues… sure. However temporarily dumping 155 HPs onto a Reinhardt’s head can buy several seconds of life… seconds that your DPS heroes can use to kill the enemies that are pouring damage into the Reinhardt who’s getting tons of healing.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.
If it was instant… sure. It isn’t instant though. Not even close. Unless the enemy team are really REALLY bad, Mercy isn’t resurrecting a Reinhardt who charged in.
So fun fact about Mobility and self sustain/tankiness. They’re force multipliers. What they do is make so whatever your hero is otherwise capable of more effective and can be done for longer. That’s it. They enhance the rest of the heroes kit. They are not impactful on their own.
No amount of force multipliers can make Mercy’s anemic 50 HPS good. They could make Rez good, but Rez turns pretty much all of them off. So that’s a no go. The one part of Mercy’s kit that loves literally all of the extra mobility and durability her rework gave her is her Blaster. Which is why Battle Valkyrie happens as often as it does.
She’s really not. Her whole kit is rife with design flaws.
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Actually, wrong.
She was must pick because of the meta that followed, that being GravDragon where she just damage boosted Hanzo ult into a Grav so Trans or Lucio ult couldn’t deal with it. Mainly happened due to Hanzo’s rework and how ridiculously fast he charged ult with release Storm Arrows, whenever a DPS hero like that is meta Mercy is sure to follow. If Mercy can’t get at least 60 HPS then Ana’s going to need a nerf, because being picked 2x as much as any other support and just being stupidly valuable with the Anti-Heal monopoly is ridiculous and I’m surprised people have let her stay that way for OVER A YEAR since the support patch as if nothing is wrong.
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Hey everybody, lets just stop playing Mercy for a moment and let us all play Ana, lets pump her pick ate to the sky, maybe Devs will see it and call it a must pick and nerf Ana too. Then we move on to Moira…
I’m just kidding.
would be funny if im not already doing that, stopped playing mercy for a while now waiting for a change.
No need, her pickrate is already pretty high. Judging alone by top500 leaderboards and own experience.
About the story of buffing her… I don’t want that. If i think about raw balance, yeah. I will always agree on that, she is basically really good right now. But i also see the flaws in her kit and how quickly everything can go wrong with her (as well as the dissatisfaction with her overall design).
That’s why my opinion is, that she should be completely reworked into a main healer again. Into something which keeps the lights on and can turn a fight around.
Maybe i said that a bit wrong, but I’m 100% sure that the vast majority will see her as a pure healer. Which she is not right now, she is an enabler… If i can say it like that.
If she is an off or main healer is not depending on what Ult she has, but on how good, which abilities are. You can have a defensive ult and still be a main healer. She worked like that for half the life time of OW really well at the end of the day. I also think that sacrificing almost all offensive abilities makes enough space to have a def Ult. And you could argue that, even Valykrie is still a def Ult.
A really bad one at that, but as we know, players like to use it that way, because the perception says it should feel good. It took almost 2 years for players to get used to the fact that you use her Ult to get into the fight and not to save your team from one. Most still don’t get that.
Anyway…
Just to come to a conclusion… I don’t think that just pure buff’s are a good idea, because of the raw balance. I think the current Ult should be thrown out and replaced with a Burst Ult.
A fixed version of Mass Res would be the most optimal situation, not only because it’s the easiest to balance, but also because we know a lot about it already.
And from there we can make her base kit to that waht you would think it’s supposed to be… The kit of a pure healer.
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