You guys have absolutely ruined hog it’s not even funny. You take away his damage and nerfed his hp in all game modes except for competitive role que which is really stupid. Can you guys stop catering to just dps players. The one shot combo was the only thing he had going for him and you guys take it away and give him nothing back in return. His faster reload and extra shot make no difference especially compared to what he lost. His heals get countered by so many things, (javelin, brig whip, doom punch, rein charge, sigmas rock, nade) and his hook is obsolete since people can just run away. He’s nothing but a huge ult battery for anyone he’s fighting and has to be babysat by his team. What can hog do that other tanks can’t? There’s no point is playing hog anymore. Delete him from the game at this point. All you guys had to do was nerf his hook range, increase cool down on his vape, nerf 50% damage reduction to 30% and nerf 350 heals down to something lower and he would’ve been fine but you guys decided to just make him unplayable.
Hog is getting something to give him mobility, he’s not “done”
It wasn’t just DPS he could 1-shot, c’mon now. DPS were the ones who should have been able to fight back though.
His hook requires teamwork now. So if you land a hook, and your teams eyes are opened, it should still be a free kill. Except now, you need more than your cheese alone.
Hogs kit doesn’t fit that play style. His hook is so he can guarantee kills on his own and his vape is so he can sustain himself without a support now since his gun hits like a water gun and he has lower hp his kit does nothing for his team. You guys sit and act like people on his team are going to kill everyone that hog hooks which is just unrealistic especially against highly mobile hero’s.
No it isn’t. Hog is a tank, that was allowed to play like a dps for far too long. Now with only one tank on the team, he needs to be more of a “tank” that helps his team by protecting them and setting up kills for his dps
That was the whole point of hog which is to one shot squishes. Dps and support are squishes. His survivability was the issue not his hook one shot combo. Also how can hog “protect” his team without any shields or armor? His vape gets countered by everyone and the enemy team can just erase all the health he just gave himself within seconds and kill him. His gun is unreliable now and still reloads pretty darn slow. Yes he’s a tank but he can’t even tank for his team so why pick him over rein or sigma? Junkerqueen can do what he does but better and her shout actually helps her team.
Preaching to the wrong choir here bud.
he’d be much better off as a weaker tank with one-shot capability → high risk - high reward character…
He is in an unfinished rework state. They are going to give him another ability to make him more tank like but it takes time bc it needs testing, coding, animation, etc.
honestly the fact that you and others believe this is the reason why Blizzard can get away with 2 months of waiting before making changes
When they make hog not a game health issue and give him a proper rework he can be fixed. For the entirety of the game’s life span if Hog is ever viable it’s miserable. I had over 700 hours into DPS DOOMFIST, so I know what it’s like to have a hero like this, trust me. when your hero is not good for the game they have to stay sub par or even bad, for the overall health of the game. you just have to accept it until he’s reworked.
It is ridiculous, if ana was in this state for a single day they would do an emergency patch instantly.
More than anything I just find the constant incompetence irritating
It should have been done before OW2 launched (along with other reworks) but even then if they waited to release the game as finished we’d still likely be in OW1 drought. It’s not about excuses, it’s about being realistic with expectations. We know Hog is getting further changes and all you can do is wait. Idk what to tell you, I can’t poof the hog rework to be finished for you. Hog is also not trash tier, like he isn’t amazing and I’d rate him close to C tier. He’s still playable for the majority of players and hopefully with the changes that are coming he’ll be more viable while also not being a total headache against or with him. Complaining to the void when we know he is getting further changes doesn’t really do anything.
I agree, but also accepting that the devs will take forever to do everything isn’t good either
I agree but that isn’t what OP was saying. They just basically said hes bad without one shot and I simply was letting OP know that Hog is getting further changes. It is hard to say if being faster with a change like this is realistic either though. I don’t know, I’m not a game dev.
That’s what irks me about blizzard. There’s so many tanks that are just weak and unviable. Hog and doom are horrendous right now and they don’t deserve that. Doom deserves a buff more than hog but you can’t deny that they both are pretty bad right now especially now since tanks have lower health in most game modes why pick most tanks when they can get one shot by widow?
I agree with ya on this one, but also, it becomes quite boring to keep releasing and changing characters with main idea in mind that they shouldn’t oneshot…
I honestly don’t care if they don’t bring back his one shot but they need to give hog more abilities. Because right now his whole kit gets countered by everyone in the game and can’t tank or protect his team.
I mean that’s what happens when you remove character’s 2nd interaction,
1st is that he can’t die, and the 2nd was that he pulled you in and vaporised you, now he just can’t die…
Most games I’ve been in hog can’t even do that anymore. He just gets countered and then erased which makes the tank players switch to ramattra or orisa lol
Hog wasn’t designed originally to one shot but due to being fat as your main tank quality, his damage got buffed over time making the one shot combo more consistent. In 5v5 it ended up being too consistent along with the addition of Kiriko who nulled his counterplay. I’m a Mercy main though so I don’t have a lot of trust or faith in the devs to do it right at this point so we’ll have to see. I do agree he is lacking but it is nice to know that he wont stay like this forever.
Just to be clear, I love hog mains. I trust hog players to be a meat shield more than I trust Rein players to hold their shield up for me. Love you guys <3