I’d rather some Masters 3 player get T500 than someone’s 6th account
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Then that’s where we fundamentally disagree. There should not be masters in the t500. Someone’s alt account taking the spot of a player who IS NOT a t500 caliber player is not a negative, especially when you’re also locking out plenty of non alt accounts because 750 wins is a hilariously egregious requirement.
Even 200 - 250 wins would be better.
I agree the win requirement is wild
You know people are rewarded for marathons, right?
I get what you’re saying, but at the same time, it makes more sense from a developer’s point of view to encourage and reward playing the game more. And also, stops alts from taking up spots, which makes more players happy.
I think that’s mostly a rank reset issue though especially since they said it was harder than intended to climb but I don’t really know.
Because I’m with you and if it were up to me t500 would start at like gm4 probably. Because t500 spanning 3 ranks across champion gm and masters is a little silly.
…except they ARE a t500 player. That’s what you don’t seem to be getting?
If someone holds the first top 6 spots in t500, that player is just #1. They are locking out player numbers #496 497 498 499 and 500
Alt accounts should not be in top 500. People with five accounts are bad for the game.
Anything that discourages alt accounts is a good thing.
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I’m speaking in the context of overwatch. It’s the main reason why 50 wins was such a dumb change, it was an endurance check.
People who just endured that many games early season got a free t500 mark on their profile without ACTUALLY being a t500 caliber player and while straight up being in diamond.
That would be great, but it’s the opposite affect. People who are already in t500 caliber lobbies, won’t want to keep playing because they are at that point playing for something they won’t achieve in multiple seasons.
Like the example I stated earlier with me. There’s no reason to play. This would be different if I was lower elo because then I would be getting these wins while still climbing to a t500 level. I’m already here. There’s nothing left to climb outside of just a different t500 spot, but… I can’t climb t500 spots because I don’t appear in the t500 lmao.
Except they AREN’T. That’s like saying a diamond player who grinded out 50 wins at the start of the season is a top500 player. That’s a JOKE.
Except this change is a egregious and is just locking out main accounts from it. No one is saying alt accounts shouldn’t appear but even 200-250 games required would still apply the pressure and effect of pushing out alts without it at the same time pushing out entire main accounts from a number like 750.
Hilariously shortsighted.
At that point, the issue is Blizzard’s rank distribution and dwindling playerbase. The entire premise of top 500 is that there are 500 of them. If it is really the top 400 and their alt accounts, that’s a bit misleading. It does make sense that they are trying to rectify this problem.
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I’m talking specifically about alts, which you seem to think is a good thing?
How do you disagree with that? Please explain.
99% chance you were toxic enough you can’t play your main anymore, and are just mad your alt can’t get top 500 now.
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I don’t think it’s a good thing. I just don’t think it’s a negative.
I already explained. I don’t see it as a negative because I don’t think masters players should be in the t500 in the first place.
This would be great if the change didn’t also actively push out people’s main accounts because of the win requirement being so stupidly high.
??? such a weird remark. My main account is perfectly fine???
It’s impossible to take that comment seriously when you post here with an alt
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But if they ARE a top 500 player, that MAKES NO SENSE, lol.
You’d rather have 1 player hold all 500 spots, than have a masters player hold spot #2 (even if he IS actually the #2 player)? Okay, friend.
As with my example, if one player holds the top 6 spots, the bottom 5 players won’t be in the top 500. How is that NOT a negative?
I understand that people might want the perception that the top end of the game is filled with these unassailable god-kings, and anything that at least feels reachable shouldn’t qualify, but that’s sometimes what the reality is
It’s like when they show the rank distribution and people realize that way less players than they think can even reach whatever the equivalent of diamond in their game is
But yeah, “The Top 500 should probably be 500 different people” is a pretty fair goal to aim for lol
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Most high-ranked players spend an inordinate amount of time playing this game. The point of this change is to encourage them to get on their main accounts and stay on their main accounts so that the matchmaker can have a fighting chance at sorting them out correctly.
If they’d rather spend their time smurfing, we can’t stop them, but they shouldn’t be that surprised when choosing not to play at their own level results in them not being ranked at that level.
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It’s the forum. Why does my account matter?
I’m telling it to you directly. My main account is playable, the win requirement is dog.
Because if the bottom 5 players are masters, I DON’T THINK THEY SHOULD MAKE THE LIST REGARDLESS.
T500 should unironically cut off at GM.
Yeaaa but that’s not true because a lot of top ranked players have camped their spot this entire time so they won’t even have access to t500 and not only that most people who are that high ranked, can take breaks, play less, and still maintain that level of play.
They don’t NEED to play inordinate amount of games.
I don’t disagree, the problem is when you make the win requirement so high that main accounts are getting pushed out of it. Even 200-250 wins would still deter alts.
Pretty much, lol. The reality is that this probably won’t even affect most of the top 500 players. But it WILL affect their alts.
Well, then I don’t think you understand the meaning of the words “top 500 players.”
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No one is saying getting rid of alts is a bad thing. The win requirement is egregious, and 200-250 wins would still deter alting without flat out pushing entire main accounts out of it.
I don’t think this will happen because console t500 would be like 100 people or something lol. They could have different systems but I don’t think they want to do that either