Y'all are killin me


Widow’s entire gameplay is around landing shots, we should give her autoaim so people can pick her up without learning how to aim.


Forums like to be all doom and gloom. I’m not super happy about the speed nerf either, but after spending some time on the PTR, the new wall riding isn’t bad at all.

Sure its easier,but that is not a bad thing. it was hard becasue of how inconsistent it was with map geometry. they fixed a lot of that. its better now.

I am disappointed about the issues with skimming and i could care less about the lucio rollouts. they were fun to do but rarely applicable to actual games. Speed boost from leaping off walls is an important part of his kit as it makes lucio a good peeler. i don;t want to see that go away. but its too early to tell.


-you cant late jump and other fancy tech

-rollouts less effective due to speed decrease

-wall skimming worse
People and r/cow are angry that the skill CEILING was decreased. No one cares about the skill floor.


Yeah this change unlocks lucio for non hardcore lucio mains. The elitists can kick rocks :joy:

Also if genji can be head shot with deflect that has to be fixed


its not about it being a nerf or buff.

theyve made him potentially ridiculously hard to kill on some points.

probably buffed him for the lower end of the players.

nerfed him for the high end of players.

its everything a balance change shouldnt be.


There are additional patch notes with a nerf and now Lucio is able to wall ride in the most predictable way possible. If that isn’t a clever nerf on every aspect possible then I don’t know what is.


.5 m/s…
That is what the fuss was about…really???

also thank you for pointing this out to me because i found this also :rofl:



I just wanna do crazy rollouts and not infinitely rotate around poles, is that too much to ask?


Except that, the prediction is that a lot of Lucio players will start rotating around polls now all the time.

Which is like 'oh, this Lucio will continue going on circles and turn around this corner for the 2nd time. Which is the most logical solution to this as the enemy I am ? Shoot this predictable pattern he keeps doing. ’

This ‘buff’ will make a lot of Lucio players play straight dumb and predictable.


Then…don’t be dumb and predictable.

you can still hop between walls if you like.

you can still wall climb, jump climb between walls…heck you can still use your tanks to help you.

I imagine only the idiots would do what you’ve described…experienced lucios will use every advantage they can get


Damn dude, just tested it. I thought it was some simple wallride buff that made it a lil easier, but this just automatic.


They removed the benefit of wall skimming, it’s much more slow and clunky now.


This is the part where wall ride boost nerf kicks in.

I haven’t played on PTR yet to know exactly how much less he can do compared to before though . ( PTR keeps saying failing to connect, is it up even ? )


yes i tested it out on the new map.
(btw great lucio map!)

Its remarkably easy to chain wallrides together between buildings. event past the environmental hazards. (reminds me of eichenwald with the trees on the right side of the attackers spawn)


His speed was lowered, that’s what makes me mad.

He’s speed is one huge part that made it fun for me😂


The speed is still there my friend!

.5 meters is…well nothing lol


Thats a lot. When you start skimming and adding them up, now it stops very quickly after 2 skimms. You cant add up speed like before


Yep it is easier to chain wallrides. A lot easier. but you tend to lose all momentum when jumping from a corner. That part sucks. it seems you can keep the momentum if you time it right. If i remember if you just just before the corner you will keep it, but after you risk sticking to the corner and losing all your momentum when jumping.

If you trying to skim it feels real bad becasue of how sticky lucio is now to walls. But it may just be i need more time to adjust to the changes.


it could be that too I mean honestly it is only day 2


You know what, I’ll tell you what Jeff, if you fix all the hero’s and bring them back to their former glory of impactfulness and fun, I’ll drop the meme, deal?