One thing about 2-2-2 is that it’s going to absolutely suck with regard to Pharah. Hope one of your two DPS can hitscan because otherwise it’s a free win for Pharah!
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Why not? I do that all the time. I’ve seen that some all the time? I don’t get your logic
That’s a fair point and I understand the frustration. If anything 2/2/2 needs to be a separate game mode with it’s own SR without forcing the rest of us to play that way.
And having separate game modes might reduce queue times since all the 2/2/2 lovers will be queuing for that.
any comp > 222
any comp = WAY more fun
this question is basically leading you to an answer they want not that the person wants.
play who I want when I want bc I flex every role and rather have my rank not be stuck on one hero like most people do bc they think that means theyre good at the game instead of a very small portion of it.
still pretty leading.
current. my games are fun. even with long ques Im still gonna get morons here and there so I rather not wait for the same bad games.
another question trying to force an answer the OP wants. obv just salty and wants a worse system
people should know how to play more than 1 hero/role. if people wanna OT fine. but even if theyre gm at that one hero theyre still 29/30% trash. if you want ranks EVERY hero needs its own rank. otherwise it’s the same problem with off meta heroes causing issues and now people can role swap like before.
wow almost every question is super leading and biased. just make a “waaa 222” post. 222 is horrible for the game.
i rather have a real OW game where we can actually use the hero swap system as intended. communicate. it’s a team game. stop being salty. learn how to play other roles if you care so much. if you dont want to then thats your fault. its like playing monopoly without money and spaces to buy bc you get people who dont let you win.
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The problem is that 2-2-2 will siphon off all the supports/tanks and ruin regular play, so it’s hard to have both.
Didn’t you hear? 5 dps 1 support is the new meta.
It already happens. I have had people ask me to swap to a shield tank or Wibston/D.Va to dive their Widow… I can’t. I do not know how to. I am only playing Hog because he is a DPS. Lul.
So imagine once people who can fill one or two tanks are the people who are locked into tanking. There will be so many matches with people who cannot swap and need to one trick their tank or healer.
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Not necessarily. D.Va can shut down Pharah by herself. Plus, hitscan isn’t the only answer. If you can out duel a Pharah in Pharah mirrors then you shut her down. You can also shut her down with other projectile heroes if you are good enough such as Hanzo. Plus, supports can do it as well.
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I’ve also seen plenty of people not do it. You aren’t everyone. You are naive if you think people that do that now will keep doing that. Right now, I don’t mind playing any role. If we go 222, I’m going to be that person that won’t switch at all unless I am personally annoyed with the problem because I am stuck dealing with the inconvenience of 222 being forced.
I’m not the only one that will do that. That’s just a fact.
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Mostly those only work against bad Pharah players. Dva works a little but isn’t great.
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True but if Blizz is already working on it I just want to ensure it’s not forced onto all of us. I can only speak for myself, but I’m a support that will stick around… I just don’t want to be “stuck” as a Support.
I can’t stop the bus barreling towards us, I just don’t want to HAVE to ride it lol.
I more mean that people that can also probably won’t. If I’m playing DVa and the enemy Zarya is outplaying me, right now I would change, but my general attitude would change and I wouldn’t bother changing. My current roster of 12 heroes would immediately drop to 4 and nothing could make me change.
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Yet you say giving people free reign to pick their comps is somehow better for the game. If I’m Naive for thinking that a tank can switch to D.Va then I don’t know why you are to think people can do well together with no limits when a tank won’t even switch to D.Va
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It depends on their team. I was with a team that could not contest Pharah, went Pharah, beat her in the duel 2 out of 3 times we engaged with each other… But they had a Hanzo and Baptiste pressuring me and forcing me to play different angles that were less beneficial than hers. That is not a usual problem. I am a hitscan main. So USUALLY I would switch. But I was angry at not being able to play Tracer. So I was not about to get rid of that problem for them.
That being said, I am nowhere near a Pharah main. The better Pharah should win most of the time assuming the compositions are relatively similar.
You’re misunderstanding. Some might switch. You not acknowledging that plenty of people will also refuse to, even if they can, because they have to deal with 222 and all of the negatives people like to ignore, is naive
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Here is my question then. How is that a worse situation compared to no type of limit with no one still not countering Pharah? If anything it would be a worse experience. That’s the point of 222. To consistently have a better experience. Any bad experience you name can potentially be worse in a match with no comp limits. That’s a fact.
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Let’s be real for a second. This is going to offend some tank mains… But everyone knows it is true. Tanks at lower ranks (sub diamond) need disproportionate resources poured into them, and they get salty if you do not pocket them. In forced 222, instead of getting that Moira that got the memo and is going to use all her resource on you while saving orbs for everyone else… And you… You are going to get me… A humble Baptiste that would rather shoot his gun than pocket a feeding tank. The tank is going to get mad because our other healer is probably just happy they could finally play off healer because someone else picked main healer. In this example, the Rein is a dedicated tank main who can flex and our healer is a veteran. My existence already disrupts that. I have done this in other games and plenty turned into triple healer comps to compensate for it. With forced 222, that all goes away and our Rein is either going to intentionally throw or unintentionally throw because they do not know how to play the role without someone baby sitting them.
It is just a mess even in relatively ideal circumstances.
Not really. The core of the game is about swapping. I don’t like playing every role on every map on attack and defense. If I queue tank and I get stuck on a map I don’t like tanking on, I can’t play healer or dps instead. If you don’t think that will insta tilt people then you’re wrong. That’s just more match losses
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The thing is, right now if Pharah is being a pain I can get off support, go Ashe, and force her off. 2-2-2 wouldn’t let me do that and Ana is a pretty bad Pharah counter.
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In 2-2-2 if the teammate that has the best aim picked support, youre screwed. Without being able to swap roles your dps can no longer swap to support and your support swap to hitscan.
In forced 2-2-2 youre still going to run into the issue of being pairef with people who can only play off support/ tank. Or dps who can only play ground based heroes who are hard countered by Pharah. Only now you cannot swap roles to deal with it.
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