Would you be willing to solo tank for 1-3-2?

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I ain’t wrong.

Binary and childish logic of “tanks/supports meta = nerfs” is how we got here. You think it’ll simply end just because there’s one tank? Oh ho ho ho NO.

What high end play? The one currently stuck in Reinhardt jail before his inevitable nerf? That high end play? :slight_smile:

That wouldn’t be an issue if multiple DPS heroes couldn’t just burst down everything else. The DPS that don’t interact with any other mechanics in the game, like the snipers, dealing one-shots left and right. That’s not going to change in 1-3-2 either for long, a simple damage boost to a Widow and your Reinhardt will go down as soon as his shield will. (and the shield WILL go down, because the other burst damage DPS will melt it in seconds)

The kind of buffs Reinhardt needs to actually live through that will make release Sigma look like a puppy. And even more so with other tanks.

DPS will not adapt for this. They will come here and demand and demand and demand for nerfs until tanks are free kills again.

And I DO play DPS, the years of being stuck in Hanzo jail because only other one-shots and burst can counter burst and one-shots have driven me rather mad. I miss the time when the reasonable sustained DPS who actually need to commit and spend resources like Soldier were to-go picks, instead of “I throw arrows and kills come out.”

The DPS narrative, of course, is that “tanks and healers” creep is causing this, yet here we are, with tanking and healing at its lowest, one-shots and burst still dominate for whatever reason.

And Hanzo is just so boring to play even when he’s winning. I don’t like having to play him again and again and again simply because doing otherwise means the team disappears into the enemy burst. McCree may have gotten to a point where he can fight Hanzo and win, but Hanzo still has an actual workable ult and burst shots that work more consistently than Cree’s stun + FTH. Also Hanzo has no falloff, so gg barriers.

There’s no tanking buffs in the world that’ll both survive the first week of nerf threads and actually let tanks live thorugh this.

Bottom line, the 1-3-2 is just a selfish change by DPS, for DPS. No one else.

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increased booster cd, increased missile cd, and having to reload, i dont like any of those

the only change i want for D.Va currently is for her matrix to have its range back, and then she’ll be perfect, but that wont work in 1-3-2

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I’m into self flagellation so of course I want to take complete responsibility for losing onto myself. /sarcasm

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I think solo tanking could be fun…IF they give them proper buffs.

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You know, I think playing one super powerful tank would be less fun than playing one normal tank.

I want to win fights because I’m good and I play well, not because I have huge health and damage to make me stronger than my opponent.

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Solo tanking is what drove me away from the game originally.

With the way blizzard treats tanks, there’s really no way they’re prepared to balance them sufficiently enough to solo.

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I’m willing to give it a shot, but I didn’t mind solo tanking nearly as much as I did solo healing, which always felt like a chore to me. I suppose it depends what changes they make to Sigma, Zarya and Orisa to make them solo tanks.

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Pretty much, if this sort of thing were to come to the live game, serious balance changes would have to come with it.

Barriers would need the health back, tanks would need to be tankier, off tanks would need something to be able to reliably compete with the main tanks

It just seems like a bad idea for the game in my opinion, but could work with major changes.

However, regardless of changes, I don’t feel like many people want to be the only tank. Tanks draw the most fire(obviously) and between having no backup tank and drawing even more fire than before it would lead to tanks spending more time in the spawn room than before.

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guy isnt worth arguing with, see quote

92

dealing with genji/tracer/doom at the same time…rip EVERY single support

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93

pretty much (20 characters fun)

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I’ll try it, but to be honest to function in this enviroment a hero like D.Va needs a LOT of changes, not just to Defense Matrix, but literally every aspect of her kit including her gun.

And if its just Defense Matrix lol no.

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It’s a Genji profile picture, I could have guessed as much lol

I just wish these people would be honest about just wanting both shorter queue times and other roles staying as their free kills.

The dishonest gaslighters that try to make tank/support players think every single crippling nerf is “good for you” while simultaneously crying about any tiny touch-up of problem DPS, they just…yeah.

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Sigh, its happening. I don’t want to try this really.

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In a 1/3/2 world, it would be more like this.

D.Va

  • armor increased to 750
  • Health decreased to 0
  • Missile cooldown decreased by 2 seconds.
  • Defense Matrix cooldown decreased to 1 second.
  • Defense Matrix duration increased to 4 seconds.
  • Critbox removed.
  • Boop damage increased to 50 damage
  • Slow on fire removed
  • Steadfast passive added to D.Va

Then I’d be willing to solo tank with her.

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Not really, but if it meant winning then I would do it.
But honestly this will be the biggest mistake in OW, followed closely by role queue.

You are trying to substitute a terrible team making system with forced roles, which takes the thinking out of OW.

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yeah id play her then, but shed be so busted its not even funny

imo, D.Va is so close to being perfectly balanced, she just needs her matrix range back

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i wonder who on the dev team liked this change and if there was anyone playing tank that liked it.

i mean i could be down for single tank if i get a proper team to work with.
for example a peeler that helps the tank do what they do, kind of like an off-tank does.

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Honestly, if she’s the ONLY tank. I don’t think she would. I think all the tanks would need buffs even Reinhardt.

Reinhardt

  • Shield health increased to 2500
  • Cooldown on firestrike decreased by 2 seconds.
  • Armor increased to 300

Just for an example.

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If this ever got passed. All tanks ultimates have to be changed to offensive ones. None of them be team reliant. You re-work tank heroes to cater to dps players. And on top of it. Still can’t get POTG. Because your ult means jack crap towards the system. That would be total garbage.