I saw this on Reddit. This is incredible. This also solves the problem of “a support changing to damage or tank”.
What do you guys think?
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I’m proud
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The knockback on the primary seems obnoxious. Otherwise looks great and I definitely would prefer that version over the current one.
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Seems poorly designed. Only four shots for a basic attack. No clear primary healing function permanently drops her as the worst healer. Duplicate immediately offering ultimate is ripe for abuse too.
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First, and I can’t stress this enough, switching a hero rolls is a really bad idea. The time and effort to change everything, balance it and test basically means you could just make a new hero. Literally the only thing you save is some graphics works. And the benefit is would provide is limited at best. And the cost is that you basically take a hero away from everyone currently playing it. Not to mention that you lose out on the excitement of a new hero release. A bad idea.
Now, to the changes them selves. They feel a little slapped together. While I do think some of the ideas could be used as a starting point for a new hero, there are definite problems. Not the least of which is the fact that having hero primary heals be the stickies would not work out well without a primary heal.
But the biggest thing is that the Ult does not solve
To be effective it encourages her to get way out of position for healer. And even if the duration is lower, you still lose a healer for it. Couple those things together and you still have a bad ult for a support.
Also, it would actually be a LOT stronger. The time earning the ult is part of the counter play. Having things like Echo flying behind your team, going Rein and basically instantly shattering you is near impossible to stop. Even with only a single ult usage, it would be MUCH stronger with a near instant ult.
And it takes some of the flavor out. She would not longer really be echoing the hero as much as just echoing their ult. So, that is a negative as well.
Plus this still creates an issue that a support doesn’t actually have a support ult. A support with a primarily damage ult would not work out well, on either side.
In short. No, this does not work. We are better off with Blizzard just making a new support hero instead of trying to slap support abilities into a dps hero.
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Got to admit, that looks cooler than the Echo we got, makes more sense with the lore, and the kit is more interesting.
Could probably use some changes(can’t boop on every primary hit, that’s crazy), but I would play this.
The downside is this would make her a much better Mercy.
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This is great work but I only want her as a shield support =p
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Gotta love when the players are smarter than the ones in charge.
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her healing function is a 2 second health pack , her her flight and her lifesaver beam thingy they all heal
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I think it’s funny there are 4 beam abilities in this game. Lay off beams guys we need different abilities that arent just OP beams.
I mean, it seems nice. But at the same time I like and prefer Echo as a Damage hero, and I say this as someone who plays support and tank far more than damage. My stance on the whole thing was that I wanted them to release a new support at that time, not another damage hero. Still, I would have been mad had it been Echo released as a support.
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Man why won’t people just let it go
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That’s a cooldown, which is fine, if there’s not going to be a primary healing function (a consistent attack or button click that generates healing a consistent fashion). Then offensively, she needs to be much stronger, but her ammo is limited to four shots and will deplete them in 1 seconds, since her firing wasn’t changed.
As I said, it’s poorly designed.
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Also, dunno if the person who posted it is here, but I think Echo’s primary should be untouched. Her primary is kinda garbo without sticky bomb or focusing beam.
I never disagreed that it was poorly designed I just pointed out that they gave her three healing forms ALL on cooldowns
I want tank echo
Bap, Moira, Mercy
There’s no rule saying a support can’t decide to use their ult to get kills. Those that do always have the option to support their team instead. That option still remains here. The only difference is the dedication to the ability.
Besides, she HAS a defensive ult in much the same way Baptiste does. That instant ranged rez on cooldown is crazy strong.
I feel like you’re severely overestimating the power of healing. You forget she has an INSTANT TELEPORTING REZ ON A 10s COOLDOWN.
Not the best designed ability, but hardly a weak one.
It’s amazing!
- fits with her role perfectly
- her kit is waaaay more interesting this way
- Overall she looks great and as someone she was supposed to be
I’m not the fun of knockback primary fire. She has no primary fire healing function. She seems to be another hero with no significant role. Not a main-healer and not an off-healer.
I wish she healed with her primary fire 
Other than that… it’s just … A M A Z I N G!!!
Maybe one day blizz reworks her into support. Given the fact she’s in TOP5 least picked heroes, I think almost nobody would care much.
Half that CC and maybe remove the AOE because it seems rather annoying that she can do both and you have a REALLY solid hero.