She was? Then how come she was considered a throw pick with the EXACT same kit from season 5 ----> Introduction of 2-2-2?
I look forward to your response (and I’m already laughing just imagining what it will be).
“Her speed was buffed while firing!”
“She can now deploy a barrier while reloading!”
“Her spread was reduced!”
:kekw:
The nerf is barely noticeable dude. You can still get one good shot, if you can hit it then you live. If you miss it, then you probably die. That’s pretty fair.
And against Dva/Winston/Ball, you’re not really supposed to be able to 1v1 them as Widow in most cases.
she curently is not even in the top ten for pickrate, and pretty low on winrate too, only in GM she is kinda decent being 11th on pickrate and 13th on winrate.
I for one don’t hold any ill-will towards Widowmaker as a hero and I believe that she needs her one-shot mechanic…
…but despite that, I’m sure you’ll live; Widowmaker needed some kind of nerf, my guy. You can’t have your cake and eat it.
Doesn’t it take like 0.08 more of a second for her charge rate to reach Tracer and Pilot D.Va killing range?
Same, I don’t hate Widowmaker but if she had to be nerfed this is the best option.
Widow players need to adapt like all the people told me after I tried to defend Mercy and Brig.
if with “she” you mean widow… the current widow, the one nerfed, was not in the meta in the last patches. She was considered a throw pick in mid and lower ranks only due to the comp changes 2-2-2 made, and the release of Sigma changing a lot of pre existing balance, with that amount of shields a sniper is pretty useless and a heroes like doom, reaper and mei able to go close and pass the shields are suddenly way more powerful, in the current state also she’s not that great due to DVa’s buffs and the general viability of dive. A lot of the times a hero changes spot even if it doesn’t receive direct changes, if for example from today the armor reduction is increased to 10 (an extreme example) it’s an indirect buff to brig’s kit, but suddenly reaper, tracer and company will be totally useless, without even touching them.
I am loving these threads.
Also,
git gud
You got WIDOW from this:
Really?
I think you’re beyond my help here friend!
No, she cannot. Unless the Winston or Dva is afk… Then maybe.
Sorry i thought it was really improbable someone thinking THOSE factors were the reason why Orisa was that strong, or even questiong WHY she was meta since 2-2-2 in the first place so i ignored it. I talked bout widow with the sarcastic introduction (that apparently flew over you head) “if with “she” you mean widow…” to bring back the thread on what was the original point and to explain where the difference was and how a couple things you was lacking to see. Sorry, i should’ve used a way more easy way for you to understand maybe.
I agree, a GM widow can kill a bronze DVa and an afk Winston in 2v1.
Its only fair when doom get nerfed too. Still cant belive That a skillles hero like doom can still so his crazy oneshots but widow get nerfed…
At this point i assume you’re just pretending to not understand.
I got what you said bout orisa and how those are the usual responses of someone having no idea of what they’re talking about you was hoping to get, that’s not the point, man.
edit: and yes, those are neither constructive nor useful for the discussion in any way. Tbf all what you wrote since the first message was basically trolling, i just tried to bring the conversation to a useful point. Except bad manners and obnoxious behaviour did you bring ANY argument to the table?
She’s currently 3rd most used DPS in GM? being literally 0.02% behind Mei
Looking at the monthly stat has it skewed as it hasn’t been a full month since the gutting of Orisa, Sigma, and Baptiste and the Hanzo nerfs
Widow got a literal 20-25% increase on her time to kill. That’s game changing for her! You can’t say now that you’re so much weaker you can just adapt.
It actually is to the point… but clearly im trying to talk to a wall with you though!
OP is claiming Widow was nerfed too hard…
My point was that when Orisa was gutted (into ACTUAL unplayableness), everyone on the forum told Orisa players to “Adapt”
So now I’m telling Widow players to Adapt to her slap on the wrist. - She needs more nerfs
Understand now?
They like saying it to other mains but when their mains got the same treatment they go crazy when they taste their own medicine!
I had allot of these experience maining symmetry and you know how many changes she had gone thru! If there’s one thing were so good at is to adapt coz she is being changed on a regular basis.
But its so good to say those words back at them not gonna lie.
To all the widow mains
Its time for you guys to practice what you preached and learn to adapt!
Honestly the nerf was necessary for the overall health of the game. I will acknowledge that this is a pretty big change(people had the same rhythm for 4 years) but let’s be real many characters have had worse nerfs or drawbacks than this.
That’s just bad design tbh
Same thing with Bastion’s entire playstyle revolving around sentry form.