At first glance, it seems like a huge nerf: Widow gets drop off damage. But how far are we talking?
Scoped shots now have up to 50% damage falloff from 60-85 meters
What’s a good way to visualize this? Would it apply to the start of first point Havana? Would it apply on last point in Havana where she gets that crazy good sniper’s perch?
What about closer ranges like 1st point Dorado. Would it apply to her on defense if she’s perched above the doors at 1st point shooting at the choke?
very far, so far that it won’t really matter and she’ll still do full damage 90% of the time
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This nerf only really applies to giant maps like Havana 1st choke, Junkertown 1st choke, Ruins, etc
At most maps this nerf won’t affect much but it helps you deal with her on those gigantic maps you would otherwise be deleted in
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About 2.5-3.5 seconds of a firestrike traveling, maybe helpful maybe not but
Maybe the Ashe and Widow will have to coordinate to do a two man oneshot on you.
Basically this nerf helps other semi sniper DPS like Hanzo and Ashe deal with her at those big ranges, helps Genji get closer to her without being deleted, and helps Ana be more effective at dueling her/drawing her attention
bit over the full length of a rein charge, that will be the point when the drop off will start.
Havana, ruins, junker town, all good widow maps, also lot of grapple shots will become useless.
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Probably wait for SI Not Found to do the experimental testing since he always does that in a few hours. Should actually give a visual on it.
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Basically far enough that only in extremely niche situations will you ever see widow be affected by falloff damage. Places like Havanna high ground to spawn door is not 60meters.
Aka negligible nerf.
But it might help in a very few scenarios where red pixel appears on your screen and you don’t get to react before you just die.
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Wouldn’t really call it useless tbh
Okay just tested it. So for ilios ruins, if you’re on the top of the like building thingy out of spawn, 85 meters if to the other one, and 60 meters is about to the edge of the opposite side of the point.
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she doesnt need this nerf in my opinion since i KNOW someday they are gonna bring back the double shield meta and then she will have been nerfed 2 times to oblivion. i dont play widow much as i use too since i dont have the skill to be an all-pro and i will definitely not touch her after this card since she is really niche now, (im good but not carry good)
This helps phara and echo, I think.
And it is good, they are nothing vs a really good widow player
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I think it’s mainly intended to target maps with extreme sightlines, like Havana first and third, Junkertown first, Ilios Ruins. She’ll still oneshot on pretty much every other map.
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^ This. Even on ilios ruins the falloff doesn’t affect widow’s rein on the point. It’s only going to prevent her from shooting people out of spawn.
Literally nothing has changed. Keep in mind that Widow’s headshot multiplier is 2.5
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So, kind sirs, could someone explain me how Widow can have damage fall-off with distance and Hanzo’s arrow can’t? 
Because hitscan vs projectile?
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if nothing has changed then why bring changes?!