Seeing as how she has weaknesses, multiple counters and is not effective at any range ,I’m inclined to say that she is balanced.
“forgiving hitboxes” give me a freakin break, i have a feeling you have never even played widow before,
well from someone who plays on laptop you are very inconsiderate.
You literally want to nerf THE hero in the game that allows people to git gud, because people got too gud.
Your thinking is ridiculous and backwards.
No she doesn’t. The only reason why she is so uncontested right now is because Brig counters flankers like crazy. That and a lot of the flankers have been nerfed.
But Moira is a hero that requires good tracking.
To repeat myself YET AGAIN:
The skill requirement for headshotting flankers never changed.
If you sneak up on her with Genji, LMB to the head from 4 meters or less + Dash is an instakill on Widow. You have to land all 3 shurikens though, hence 4 meters or less.
Widow doesn’t need a nerf.
Requirement =/= capability.
Widows have just gotten so good that pros agree she decides all matches. (At the pro level.)
The nerf widow needs is to Survivability
You wanna 1-shot most of the roster? Fine.
You wanna play a “high-skill” character? Great!
Widow should be 150 HP then, so counters like Winston have an easier time actually being a counter and don’t kill themselves trying everytime
Why didn’t you improve in the meantime?
I see I’m just gonna have to quote myself over and over this thread:
She’s one of, if not the highest skilled heroes in the game. That should come with a high reward to those that can play her well. It’s quite easy to counter a widow.
However I play in low ranks and most widows are trash so what do I even know.
someone that has mastered soldier for example would never be as effective as someone that mastered widow.
LUL Tell that to dafran or kabaji 4head. Widow is like a long range genji, thriving off of a distraction from her team or mistakes by the enemy.
If she kills you it means many things:
- Someone on your team hasn’t taken her out or switched to counter if no-one can take her out
- You were most likely out of position and made a mistake, so it was your fault and your getting angry and screaming unfair because something didn’t go your way
- That player spent hours in OW or another shooter training their aim to kill you, therefore they used skill to kill you and that makes you jealous
Highly skilled players on high skill cap heroes being good?
Working as intended.
We just need more high skill heroes, instead of nonsense like Brigitte and Moira.
I must have good tracking then. btw what does this have to do with moira?
I’m just baffled that Moira is considered hard, while Widow is considered easy on the same forum.
Winston is not really a great counter to widow, DVa is better. Master butt jumping with Winston and landing on widow and you have a better chance. With DVa you can just turn your crit box.
Outside of another widow. Genji is great against her. Tracer can one clip her. Both require sneaking, or deflect. Both are somewhat limited right now due to Briganzo.
Pharah can trade with a widow if the skill is there and based on map, She has less risk and can peek and spam quickly with less precision required, or also she can use the map to get above widow, at which point pharah has the advantage. (stay out of widow’s lanes)
i know right i’m living proof widow is hard i have have practiced her for 150 hrs and i still suck.
Good thing I play on ps4, there are no good widows