as a support 90% of those games are: Tank goes one way, Dps runs completely different direction, insta die
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how do they know what the lobby is at?
This is an ignorant post. I’m assuming you’re either a dps or tank main. You should try playing healer and tell me how well that mentality holds up. When your tank is face tanking the whole team with no support/dps and the enemy teams dps is doing double, sometimes triple, the damage of your dps, you kind of have to be the tank, the dps AND the healer.
The reason some people don’t belong in their rank, as you so declare, is because it isn’t based on performance. It’s based around wins. It doesn’t matter how hard I carry, how well I play, how well I keep my team alive, it’s up to the rest of my team to make the right calls and if you lose a certain amount of times, even if you win spectacularly, you still derank or stay the same rank. It’s pure luck to get a team that doesn’t crap the bed.
I’m glad they figured out a way to make things pretty equal and eradicate smurfs, but it still doesn’t take into count that your rank is based around wins and not how well YOU performed as an individual, but as a collective with randoms.
Try playing solo heals and you’ll see the flaws in the system. We’re nothing more than a meat shield to keep games from being like COD.
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Hate to tell you this buddy but you’re wrong and randomly coming on here trying to tell people they’re the problem in a broken system is one of many reasons
THIS GAME WILL NEVER BE FIXED
Your performance does matter though. If you do well consistently for your rank you win more thus gain more rating. However, that does not mean more healing. Playing well in overwatch isn’t something that can always be quantified.
A lot of people believe they “deserve” a higher rank and there is actually a series that tests this by Jay3 where they take people in say silver and place them in plat lobbies or a diamond and place them in GM, unsurprisingly they cannot handle the pace and end up feeding.
So yes assuming you’ve played enough games, you are at the rank you should be.
And yes I’ve played support this season. Started in Silver 2 and now gold 2. 80% win rate one tricking zen after 22 games so far.
I do think the comp rank system is broken, i play better and better every day and i dont rank up even when i win 5 games in a row because matchamaker took me out of loser queue.
It isn’t about performance, it’s about wins. Obviously, if you perform well, you may win, but your entire team has to perform well. I’ve had a masters carry the hell out of us before, but everyone was underperforming, including me and we lost, therefore that was going to hinder HIS progress, even though he performed above and beyond… This dude had 3x the damage of both their dps combined, no deaths, potg, pulled some insane shots off and was playing the point the whole game.
Not sure who jay3 is, but his logic is incorrect. Silver to plat/diamond is a massive difference. You have coordinated people in plat/diamond that strafe, bob and weave and use cover vs randoms that max out at like 5-6k damage and healing in silver. I was stuck in silver for years, even though I’d perform as well as that masters in almost every game and then suddenly when they change the system, I’m back in plat and I’m performing better than before.
It’s a dice roll. When your dps is doing 2x less damage than the tank and 3x less damage than the enemy teams dps combined, you can’t tell me there’s much you can do in that scenario. That’s a loss and that will count towards your rank up. Multiple games of that? You either derank or stay the same.
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He’s a gm/t500 dps streamer/influencer and all-round cool dude (at least what i gather from the streams)
He has a series where he pins players that claim to be higher but stuck in elo hell, in the rank they claim to be to see if they can hang.
Its a cool concept to really see if you are able to perform under those controlled conditions, as apposed to the randomness of ranked.
before when its happened to a game I was in they guessed they were in the wrong lobby based on gameplay and then asked what rank we were. Everyone was masters. And not everyone has their profile on private so you can check and see that someone you’re grouped with is a very different rank
I can’t believe I just read this crap. If you think soloQ equals your true skill, then I can’t with you. You have zero concept of depending on unknown players. As a support player, I heal. That means I can do all the healing I want, but if the moron doesn’t move around or can’t effing aim, my SR is screwed.
Understand the full picture before you post moronic things like this.
First off you’re wrong because I’m actually a support main. Who plays zen, Anna, and Bap so I already understand the struggle of healing people. Also to think I don’t understand the struggle of soloQ is also ridiculous, because I climbed from bronze up to plat pretty much solo and really started duo with my friend up to diamond. And the main reason why I recommend finding a friend to play with is not only because can you have a reliable team mate with comms but also it’s simply just a more enjoyable experience climbing together. Trust me unless you’re running with a Smurf who’s hard carrying you, you won’t be climbing up ranks just because you’re stacking. You will be at your right rank KO matter what.
Also I don’t agree with us being meat shields, yeah it’s much more of a struggle to stay alive now that we have one less tank. But no matter who you play you pretty much have some means of defending your self against flanks and dive for the most part. Not saying it’s easy, but if you’re catching your self dying to flank all the time learn how to play brig or moira. Both are easy characters to pick up and learn their mechanics and you can put a stop to most flankers or divers or at least escape. Then just practice on positioning.
Uh no, you’re part of SR inflation. The matchmaker is rigged and broken.
Lol I’ll take this as you’re trolling. But if you’re not, it’s interesting that others can climb out of their ranks but for some it’s “rigged” that doesn’t make sense
Stopped reading when he read from the same teleprompter that every braindead Blizzard drone reads.
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Lol I guess but Like everyone on here plays with trash teams mates that drags them down. I feel like it’s always only my team with leavers and rarely if ever the enemy team. But the fact of the matter is the only way to climb is just getting better at what you’re doing and making plays. I have friends who are stuck in bronze, and I have other friends who have climbed up to plat. The difference is what they’ve provided for their team.
Good that you are playing with friends and managed to climb up the ranks. How abt you solo queue, you will get mixtures of randoms who are good and bad. It takes 1 - 2 teammates to play badly and your chances of winning will be slim.
No matter how hard you carry if your team can’t produce the results, your entire game just messed up.
Real question. How is anyone supposed to climb if the lobby is balanced? you should have a 50% chance to win, and thus a 50% win rate.
My man’s out here saying it’s easy to climb as a 5 stack, no Shi, I climbed from gold to diamond in a 3 stack let alone a 5. Solo-q I had a streak of 20 wins in 26 games and went from gold 1 to gold 1 4 times 2 of which were a 10 win streak. I’ve stopped enjoying stomping other players in gold though, gets boring real quick.
Don’t ask logical questions to this dev team. They think that creating a 50% chance to win is the best way to find out what your rank is, which actually doesn’t make mathematical sense, period.
A 50% chance of winning means exactly that, you have a 50% chance of winning. There’s no such thing as “play well and you’ll rank up” because the matchmaker knows that you can “play well” and will offset your skill to make it 50%. How do they not know what 50% chance of winning means?
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