It technically CAN deflect Mccree’s stun, but the interaction is buggy ASF.
Most of the time the stun goes THROUGH my deflect. Its really tilting when even in the killcam you clearly see it.
This is true mostly. I’ve been a Genji main since Season 3 or 4.
His kit is actually awesome on paper. Problems start to arise once you start considering things like input/output.
The thing is, Genji is viable (aka has a lot of output) if the player has also a lot of input. This means that in order for him to be effective, the player has to be landing every ability and shuriken possible as quickly as possible. If you take too long the target gets healed as you have 0 burst capability and your dmg is low when not oaired with everything else in his kit. The challenge in succesfully chaining everything in his kit is what makes him fun. That is good design.
However a lot of heroes in this game, specially Brig and Moira, do not need a lot of input from the player in order to get output. This means that the input/output equation is one-sided. There isnt a balance between how demanding it is to accurately and succesfully control this characters and how much output you get out of those commands.
This effectively means that in order to get the same ammount of value, Genji NEEDS a significantly larger ammount of input than Brig or Moira. Which when you are playing against players with your owm skill level, is way harder to achieve.
This imo is one of the fundamental problems with overwatch currently. Why the hell would you bother playing Genji when you can just delete people with Reaper needing significantly less input?.
The answer is:
You wouldn’t
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Innacurate hitbox on flash, it exploded outside of deflect range stunning you innacurate first person deflect animation
Literally, uniqueness and fun is subjective and not quantifiable. And really has no basis in this argument. Literally, your statement is not literal.
Really? Because I’d expect a difficult hero to use would garner the opposite result based on the idea that difficulty tends to alienate a population or demographic, not promote it. Unless you have some data that would back this up?
Considering that Brig is picked literally half of what Genji is, I call shenanigans, the data is literally against you. I can say that Genji mains think he’s OP, but that doesn’t make it true either.
Prominent Genji mains I’ve seen say he’s fairly balanced.
Sombra and Brig are probably the best counters here due to their kits and mechanics bypassing and disabling his.
I’d say Mei, Doomfist and Winston are next, as their primary abilities and health pools bypass Genji’s own abilities, but they’re far from the hard counters that Sombra and Brig are, with an exception of Winston and maybe Doom if they’re good, Genji can easily evade these heroes if adept.
Baptist is a mild inconvenience at worst, I’m guessing you chose him for the imortality field, in which case that a nuisance for everyone, but hardly a counter.
Pharah and McCree should not even be included. Personally as a proficient Pharah main, Genji is a target I never take on unless an opportunity to gain the upper hand arises. If anything, Genji’s mobility, evasiveness, primary attack and deflect puts Pharah at a significant disadvantage. Take it from someone who is incredibly familiar with the hero. Genji’s a soft counter.
McCree on the other hand has flashbang that can CC him, and that’s it. Even then it can be deflected. McCree is not a Genji counter.
I agree with you here at least. The game has become “who counters who” and less about what you as the player can make the most out of using skill. However, I disagree that Genji has taken on the full brunt of this especially when heroes like Pharah are fundamentally mismatched against hitscan. He still has some footing against his counters.
Which is why you want to buff arguably one of the most independent heroes in the game?
It is a team game, always has been.
Genji’s fine.
Flattered by ur attention.
People are really board of the game since it started getting stale in season 6or7 when ryan first brought up role q to scott mercer who just ignored.
The game just isnt competitive and people are trying things that are fun and good designed. Gengi and tracer are the most unique and skillfull chars. No one wants to learn a teambased char such as brig or main tank when the comp matchmaker is not putting good teams together.
Therefore every game every side has an instalocked gengi. And im a 3450 dps main playing gengi in 2700 games and having what little fun from comp i can have
And I appreciate the conversation
I don’t really know what this has to do with Genji or the topic at hand, but ok.
I beg to differ, I think the game I incredibly competitive especially with the current build actively pushing for conflicting metas and hard counters.
Such as?
I’m in diamond as well, or at least was last and previous seasons. Took a break after Pharah was reduced to a clay pigeon. And from my personal experience playing solo, using LFG and premade stacks I have to disagree. While in some cases the solo experience favors the individuals, the most success was had when we worked as a team to accomplish tasks.
Teamplay is still and always has been the focus and path to success in Overwatch.
But it doesn’t, his pickrate is a fair amount above average meaning he’s looking at maybe every other game if not every 3 games.
Ana is a must pick at the moment, and fits that bill to a “T”.
So by your own admission, you’re playing in an environment (2500-3500) where Genji’s average pickrate is 4.75% and his average winrate is at 51%. On that note, using those metrics, he’s well within the +/- 2% margin of error that a balanced winrate average falls in and even well above the average pickrate percentage.
You’re using Genji in his prime spot for play.
But again, nothing you’ve said really tells me why he needs buffs or is underpowered in any way. I get that you might want buffs, because who doesn’t want buffs for heroes they like? But you haven’t given me any reason to buy into your side of the argument.
From literally everything I’m seeing, Genji is a good example of high skill floor/ceiling and is balanced because of it. And the pickrate/winrate stats reflect this.
Quiz Time!
Situation depicted in the following picture:
https://imgur.com/a/LUlleIZ
Will the Flashbang be deflected or not?
Answer in the following picture:
https://imgur.com/a/sBxiQav