Why punish people for leaving at hero selection?

[Kaedi-11739]

@Hotaru251-1596

might wanan check your system then…because i can confirm it DOES punish your endorsement for leaving during it. (i found out hard way when i was alt tabbed and didnt click leave after prior round but left before the match started.

I am not sure if he elaborated the full rules. There is an older post from former Community Manager Lylirra about that:

@Community Manager Lylirra

We’ve seen similar questions about how the leaver penalty currently works in Quick Play (both here and on social media), so here’s a bit more information:

• If you leave too many games and your “games played” vs “games completed” percentage falls below our required threshold, you will receive a warning message (this percentage is calculated based on your 20 most recent games).

• If you continue to leave games after receiving a warning (which will display in the lower left-hand corner of your screen), you will incur a 75% EXP penalty on all future games.

• The penalty isn’t time-based, but instead will be removed once you complete enough games to raise your “games played” vs “games completed” percentage above our required threshold (again, this percentage is calculated based on your 20 most recent games).

• If you disconnect or are removed due to inactivity from a game, it will count the same as if you leave the game intentionally.

If you leave a game before the “Assemble Your Team” phase is over (i.e. before you enter your starting spawn rooms):

• It won’t count as a game played
• You will not be considered a “leaver” in this scenario

If you leave a game after the match ends (i.e. after you see the VICTORY/DEFEAT screen):

• It will count as a game played—and if your team won, it will count as a win
• You will not be considered a “leaver” in this scenario

If you leave a game after the “Assemble Your Team” phase is over, but before the match ends :

• It will count as a game played
• You will be considered a “leaver” in this scenario

Source: Overwatch Forums

In addition, if you are not earning enough endorsements over time, you can decay your endorsement rating.

[Hotaru251-1596]

@Kaedi-11739

I am not sure if he elaborated the full rules.

misinformation is bad D:

and i know not getting one can lower it. (i stay in the 3-4 99% of time)

and it was few months ago but it was when i left during hero selection but not in the room.

[DibbleMunt-2380]

Is their a possibility of map and mode vote at the end of games, could maybe combat this, while I dont actually know if you can get punished for leaving as some players say they do in qp, but having this could be something to have a little more player control on what is played, could even help show player data on popularity to play certain maps and modes, kinda like cs-go giving a brief idea of what maps and modes could do with changes without the need for initial written community opinions.

While also causing less of the back filling that can happen sometimes, and then sometimes games getting cut at the start, as for me personally it does happen quite often for less popular modes, i personally dont mind for qp but some really have no desire to play those maps and it sometimes makes everybody else have to wait all over again.

[Kaedi-11739]

Well he did deliver the correct fact correctly, if it was during the Assemble Your Heroes phase, but not the Setup your Defenses/Prepare to Attack phase, leaving then has no impact. However, as I said, you can decay if you are not earning enough endorsements in your most recent games played (even if you receive endorsements in the most recent round completed).

[anon64855457]

If the Match did not start and you leave a qp game the endorsement should not Go down …

[Mädŀąď-1913]

Whats with all these people leaving Mystery heroes all the time, arcade is out of control because no penalty.

[Jaqenoffski-2291]

When I did it we were defending, map had just loaded, I left and ended up with with -75% xp for 4 matches.

Only 2 people on the team had pick heroes.

[Nobody-1238]

@NighthAwk-13514

@sourmoth-1880

Its baffling how programmers still haven’t touched this glaring problem

As a software developer myself I can answer this one for you: This would almost certainly be classified as a very low priority issue that has very minimal user impact and literally zero gameplay impact. There are far more important issues to work on than the user having to hit escape twice at the character selection screen to exit the game.

ahem

Fixed a bug that prevented Ana’s sidearm from displaying golden coloration from her Golden weapon when Overwatch League skins were equipped

Fixed a bug that caused Ganymede’s tail feathers to be cropped during Bastion’s Toast Victory Pose

Fixed a bug that caused Bastion to emit blood instead of oil visual effects when Overwatch League skins were equipped

Fixed a bug that prevented Brigitte’s impact effects from playing when hitting the environment

Fixed a bug that caused details to detach from Brigitte’s Rocket Flail when she swung it

[Bakara-1305]

your endorsement level doesn’t get punished. your level drops when you play games and don’t get any endorsements, which happens when you leave and aren’t eligible

[Nobody-1238]

Either the game counts at that stage, or it doesn’t Blizzard needs to make a choice.

[NighthAwk-13514]

Those are most likely art bugs fixed while tweaking other things.

The person I replied to is talking about changing actual UI functionality which is likely more complex than changing the default value of a variable.

There’s a pretty substantial difference.

[Purehatred-1117]

I don’t know why they do it, QP finds other players to fill your spot.
Dictatorship at its best is all you can put it down to.

[CrimsonFox-11709]

I have gotten punished with -75% EXP for the next 15 matches due to leaving QPs at character Select screens. I have lost my endorsement levels from getting endorsements from playing games all day. And have gotten matched with beginning players when i have put 600+ hours into the game and am far from the skill level of a beginner.

Being punished for leaving a match during the hero select screen is one of the dumbest things that happens in the game. Also changing the time from 60 seconds in hero select and prepare to attack/defend to 45 or whatever it is was a mistake in my opinion.

And if i join a game with less then a minute left i SHOULD NOT be punished for leaving. in fact if there is 30 seconds left. no one should be allowed to join the game from queuing. Its Quickplay not Comp.
Its supposed to be fun and can get very competitive at times but i shouldnt be getting punished because i am put into a game that is unfair and i want to leave.

[Gamma-12669]

Endorsement level decreasing is independent of leaving games, or, at least, not totally dictated by it. I’ve had endorsement level decrease after winning several games in a row.

[VelocityMyst-1719]

@Purehatred-1117

Dictatorship at its best is all you can put it down to.

How?

[Purehatred-1117]

You have to stay or get penalized, how is this not dictatorship in a game.
People need to get over the mentality that QP is comp, its not, it was never for that, it was to practice new heros and mechanics to take into comp.
If people want to leave a casual play mode, then why should they be penalized for it when the casual play mode backfills anyhow.

[VelocityMyst-1719]

@Purehatred-1117

You have to stay or get penalized, how is this not dictatorship in a game.
People need to get over the mentality that QP is comp, its not, it was never for that, it was to practice new heros and mechanics to take into comp.
If people want to leave a casual play mode, then why should they be penalized for it when the casual play mode backfills anyhow.

Ah, I see.

[Araxen-1172]

I’m with you I leave almost every 2CP map that pops up. This game needs a map preference option badly.

[Mitrovarr-1405]

@CrimsonFox-11709

I have gotten punished with -75% EXP for the next 15 matches due to leaving QPs at character Select screens.

Was it during the original “Assemble your team” time? That’s supposed to be safe to leave. If it is later while the match is actually on, you are stuck (this also means you cannot leave backfills).

[Wiizer-1243]

It’s a socialist game. The map must oppress everyone. You can’t leave.