but your whole post is about you blaming the wrong people for changes that may or may not be happening. there was no constructive discussion, you just blamed and patronised them for no reason.
It’s not about novelty at all. There is already novelty in ranked. It’s about skill to reward. I like widow because she’s high skill high reward, Mei is low skill high reward.
At high ELO, it’s about the potential range of heroes you can play without soft-throwing.
Why have a range of hero options? Because of novelty.
Game Balance at it’s fundamental level boils down to choices that are both interesting/novel and worthwhile.
Here’s a whole design document on the subject by the top balance guy for League of Legends, who previously worked on Warcraft 3, and was a Starcraft world champion when brood war came out.
This is F2P game. corp logic says – Players who buy skins are important, players that just “knowing the game and etc” are not
Well the notion that Hog and Widow complaints come specifically from lower rank players is obviously false. The most visible hatred for both heroes seems to stem largely from Samito.
If you dont make sure your new/low skill players are having fun in a F2P game, your game dies.
It really is that simple.
It should be known by now that OP just troll posts
i would like to point out that gm players were also complaining about hog hook.
this is more of a high rank issue, but still. no one likes to just be dead with no ability to respond. and just staying in cover is contrary to playing.
while true, neither do you, but just because we dont understand it does not mean we should not try to improve it.
this just sounds like good matchmaking or you being an complete donkey.
The game has to be patched from both ends of the Spectrum because You have to attract new customers to the game.
Its NOT fun for either side. But at the same time. They have to do it, in order to bring in and retain players.
Low rank players aren’t the ones complaining about Widow though? They complain about heroes like Sym and Moira. Most people I see complaining about Widow are Masters+ and rightfully complain about her being able to single-handedly dictate matches on certain maps.
Your examples made no sense. Hog was nerfed because he was oppressive in HIGH ranks. Reinhardt and orisa are the meta tanks in lower elo.
I’m sorry but standing 20 m away from the objective (where most heroes want to play around) doesn’t mean you’re out of position.
And second, hearing a hog flanking is pointless because once you hear him it is too late. Even expecting the flank and positioning elsewhere can only do so much.
Third, he could almost just walk wherever he wanted and not get punished due to his sustain despite having such high kill potential with 0 risk.
Widow however? I’ve seen low rank players just peak the widow as if they weren’t expecting to get headshot and as if they could actually 1v1 her from that range. They don’t consider sight lines or falloff. And widow is at least a glass canon unlike hog. But high elo players will complain about her as well.
interesting, they don’t like them, but can deal with them
does that mean they should nerf it so that it’s not impactful anymore? is that gonna make it bareable?
no no no, it punishes playing the game it was a one shot that couldnt be one on the one doing it and thats the main reason its trash plus top 500s hate hog hook its got a huge hitbox and is like fishing in a barrel
What makes you think the game is being balanced based on low ranks?
Hog hook is just a very “unfun” mechanic. I don’t know if you noticed, but OW2 from the beginning has been trying to get rid of stuns and things like that.
Are low ranked players good with widow? Presumably if you’re low rank, you can’t aim well, so how is widow a problem?
no they shouldn’t popular heroes are played alot so no they shouldnt nerf heros that way
how do you get that idea? they try to strike a balance if anything. but so far they have been balancing a lot around what high elo players say. examples?
mercy, sojourn, orisa, hog, sombra, zarya, all nerfs that happened bc those heroes have been running rampant in the past particularely but not exclusively in high elo. and im sure ive only mentioned half of the relevant heroes.
This game is designed for low rank(for most people). If they only care high rank players, they wouldn’t make character hitbox and projectiles such big and spammable. There won’t be cheese instakills like hog hook or FB+FtH and etc. There won’t be such aimless supports.
All those indicate they are designed for most people. But yeah, ironically, most people just play Valorant or CoD and call OW an unfair game.
Just stop, please. Stop treating every low ranked player like some lower life form. They may not have an equal understanding compared to a t500 but they would certainly realise that reaper was buffed.
Because low-rank widows are notorious for dominating lobbies.