Except all the ones that aren’t, right?
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None aren’t though .
Pharah at least has a change in the works that, if it works will make her much better.
These forums are horribly biased against genji, and the argument of pickrate really doesn’t matter. Within his role(flanker dps) he is absolutely horrendous, and despite not having a horrible pickrate, he offers almost no reason to pick him over tracer or echo.
Bastion, Mei, Sym, Sombra, Pharah.
They are barely picked at pretty much every single rank.
Because they are not viable in most situations against players of similar skill… regardless of what that skill is. That’s what a generally weak hero looks like.
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Because they aren’t popular heroes.
Once again, stats aren’t the end all be all.
They used to be. When they were stronger and more viable.
It is very strange how a hero’s popularity declines when they are weaker.
Just like how Genji was suddenly way more popular when he was op.
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See below.
And to further clarify, Genji, Doomfist and Echo all belong in the same grouping when it comes to damage. They are focused on burst, mobility and opportunities to make that happen or to capitalize on.
One of their shared weaknesses here is that they don’t do well against sustain targets or strategies, like Tanks and some Supports. Since there are now four targets in every group that are focused on keeping the team alive and safe, this makes it much harder for Genji, Doomfist, and Echo to perform their intended roles.
Until Blizzard figures out how to shift the meta compositions away from sustain-heavy compositions like Double-Barrier, or actually attempts to tune down Tanks, this problem will remain endemic to Overwatch and heroes like Genji, Doomfist and Echo will struggle.
There is nothing inherently wrong with having key weaknesses in a team game like this. But when your strongest offense and defense is tied to your Tank and Support line, any hero who struggles with Tanks is going to suffer.
None of those heroes have ever been extremely popular.
That isn’t popularity. That’s being picked for their power, similar to how Brig was highly picked at her release even though she is not a very popular hero.
Lots of people are just butthurt when the dps they farmed so many games with over the years eventually gets countered or is not as useful as they use to be due to all the other changes/heroes added to the game.
He’s fine.
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Honestly genji was always a fan favorite it’s just after going through the gind works people get rather frustrated and move away.
Also heroes like Mei and junk rat are underrated at the moment.
You’re saying Genji is only picked more because he’s popular. But he’s not picked at higher ranks where he’s weak despite that popularity?
But other heroes are only picked because of their power?
You can’t have it both ways.
People love Mei and Pharah.
Power has a significant effect on pickrate. Moreso than “I want to be a cool ninja or flying egyptian Samus.”
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In the low ranks, yes.
Yes, you can, it’s just that heroes that are OP are an exception to the idea that popularity rules. The way you can tell is when they are OP, they are kicked a lot everywhere, and when they are nerfed they have a drastic drop in pickrate (this is in the case of an unpopular hero like Orisa and Brig).
But not enough to be considered very popular, hence why they aren’t picked much.
I adore Pharah. I only play the game because of her.
I’ve been picking her less because, despite loving her, she’s in such a sorry state that it’s basically a throw pick in most situations… and it’s very easy for the enemy to go double hitscan and shut me down on Pharah on most maps.
So, I pretty much only play the game to play Pharah and even I am not playing her as much.
Popularity is not the only reason. People are deluded if they think Genji is 3-5 times more popular than most other heroes at most other ranks. He’s just more viable.
Again, I’m not saying he doesn’t need tweaks/buffs at higher levels, just that he is very viable and even a strong pick at most ranks for most people. So the sky is falling, DOOM mentality of Genji posters confuses me.
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Anecdotal data in anecdotal after all.
It’s the leading reason in most cases.
People play video games to have fun, for the most part. That’s the literal reason for playing video games.
Any hero can be considered a strong pick for the lower ranks, Genji is not an exception to this.
He really isn’t, every single tier list made by high ranked players ranks him in unplayable tier, even karq said that he wasn’t effective. I want him to be better at high ranks but worse at lower ones so it feels like I’m not wasting my time.
Statistical data is statistical. She’s barely picked and has a mediocre winrate at best for her niche pickrate.
Statistical data disagrees with you.
Why is this so hard to understand?
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Stats mean nothing if you ignore the reasoning and context.
No, it doesn’t, it agrees with me because I say Genji is a popular hero and the stats support that claim.
Pharah is picked less because she’s easily countered.
Winning is fun. Playing a hero that gets hard countered by over half the roster isn’t.
So Genji gets played while Pharah doesn’t.
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Genji is easily countered as well, though he is picked more in the lower ranks. You want to know why? Because he is more popular than Pharah.
But there is no point in winning if you do not enjoy the part leading up to the win. Winning, by itself, is not fun. It’s not the destination, but the journey that matters the most.
Genji mains really be out here thinking everyone just thinks Genji is the greatest thing ever and that’s the only reason why he’s played.
Nothing to do with his hard carry potential and how strong nanoblade is at most ranks.
Okay.
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