Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State


#21

I know. I was memeing


#22

Resurrect isn’t on an E anymore remember?

That’s a net decrease in utility.


#23

Not to mention she’s got her pre-rework weaknesses of not having AoE healing and a bit less free mobility without Valk.


#24

You’re putting a new ability on E and increasing the potential value of resurrect. Valk didn’t provide nearly as much utility. Her new E also comes up 3 times as often.


#25

She does have that with the new Resurrect, but the output is much lower than her current Valkyrie.


#26

Awesome thread as always!

I hope this time it gets the devs attention :slight_smile:


#27

People asked for an E ability well before the rework. That was with mass rez. To give her something else to do during a fight other than her ult.


#28

I’ve suggested this before my instead move single Rez to ultimate and it’s instant .it takes 50% to preform and fully charging it rez 3 people for more ult charge by 1.5x.note*mercy beam after healing nerf takes 63 seconds if straight healing so 1:30 is it’s average ultimate gain which is reasonable since 30 secx3 people is also3 but since it’s a ult I wanted to make it instant


#29

And I would say that a 1-up every 30 seconds has a lot more utility to it than a combined 33% damage reduction to a single target for 12 seconds over that same duration.

And Resurrect can’t miss.

While also increasing the likelihood of failure due to additional nerfs to Resurrect.


#30

That doesn’t matter if it’s not balanced. This bloats her kit even more

I missed this on my first check. You’re also eliminating another of mercy’s healing checks: AoE and now burst.


#31

My only concern with the ult idea is the burst heal in the sense that it negates that “Mercy is a single target healer” thing people were pointing out for Valkyrie. I like the flexibility in ult usage, however.


#32

If you missed that on the first pass through, why did you say this:


#33

Because I was referring to an increase in comparison to current rez


#34

I had some ideas for a Valkyrie/Mass Rez hybrid rework but I’ll have to type it out later.


#35

Aoe and burst on Mercy is cool as long as it is tied to her Ultimate.
If you want to read more about that i recommend you to read point 1.1 of my thread:


Also, the burst heal is supposed to buff res a bit, because the new restrictions are quite heavy. It makes res more to a mid fight Ult which wasn’t the case before, it’s not even a big buff really.


#36

Actually, the AoE advantage has been minimized, as it is a single 150 HP burst heal rather than 60 health/second for 15 seconds.

As for burst… Mercy had a burst ultimate prior to the rework and did fine, so there is no reason to assume that Mercy’s burst potential would be too great if she gets a burst ultimate again.


#37

In that case, potential doesn’t matter, as we know for a fact that in reality mass-rez is less powerful than the current Resurrect.


#38

I don’t agree with this. I don’t want Mass Res back. Valk is a better ult. It needs work, but it is better. Not to mention it looks awesome.

People have to stop with posts asking for a revert. It wont happen. They will probably end up removing Res before they put it back in the game.

I dont think Pacify is an ability that should go on Mercy either. It would be better suited for a new support hero altogether.

Res has to be tied to ult and we have to keep Valk.


#39

This isnt a revert this is another rework Mercy needs.


#40

I agree Mercy needs more work, but not with a Mass Res