Wow the talk behind your back option! If there’s one thing that’s useless it’s that considering… guess what they are still being toxic to everyone still and you don’t know when to report them so they will continue being a terrible person! Also your 99% doesn’t agree with League of Legends, Paladins, Halo, EVEN BLIZZARDS OWN HEROES OF THE STORM AND WORLD OF WARCRAFT
I can’t expect someone like you to understand why it’s a horrible idea to allow enemy team chat to continue the way it has been for years. YOU may not experience it but countless others do daily which is why… oh I dunno WE HAVE THESE THREADS ALL THE TIME?
I am a victim of egregious toxicity myself. It just comes from my team. Enemies can’t talk trash because I mess them up. It has happened before, but they lost in devastating fashion and I spawn trapped them personally, so their words felt quite hollow. And the funny part? It started because MY TEAM was being toxic to me in all chat.
Sorry that tons of people are toxic to you on the enemy team. That is not cool. I just do not believe stripping the choice from every player because your feelings are hurt is rational.
My option is the most rational and logical of all when it comes to ending most of it for good. Tell me what does all chat have to offer besides saying gg at the end but only if their team wins? Throw in the occasional harassment and trash talking into the mix also. Do you not understand the simple concept of if they can’t say toxic things then there is no toxicity? Now you see why most are against it because they know how powerless they would be if they can’t trash talk or harass others on the other side even with alt accounts.
It ironically makes the game feel less toxic to me when my team is being toxic and the enemies defend me over my own teammates who allegedly want to win.
But I will admit that it is perhaps selfish.
I also have a dream that one day my entire team abandons me and I can bargain ending the game early for the cratered achievement.
In all honestly, however, it does not contribute much and I wouldn’t mourn it’s loss.
I don’t know, but at this point it’s “cultural,” and either an Overwatch thing or just an online FPS thing. Like there are slurs that I won’t repeat which are not used where I live. I’m almost forty and can count the number of times I’ve heard them in my lifetime on one hand, but I come on Overwatch and people use them in every fifth match.
I remember Jeff saying that they didn’t expect people to be so resistant to switching, and originally the game was designed to work in a way where based on the map/mode and which side you were on, you’d play different heroes. (eg. Mei on Hanamura defense) Players didn’t want to switch, so it didn’t turn out that way, and it meant they had to change their approach. I think it’s such a shame! I quite liked the original version of the game.
Both of these are mutually exclusive. You CANNOT have a game with any kind of competitive integrity and be very team dependant. One or the other, but not both.
Oh, no, you absolutely can. Stuff like parking lot basketball games even. The problem is people have learned there’s no personal risk for bad behavior in online spaces, so they let their inner troglodyte out, and if they do it for enough years, they justify it to people as “that’s just gaming, bro.”
It’s not a problem with the game, or the game creators, or society. It’s a problem with people making deliberate choices and pretending it’s not their own fault.
I wouldn’t say this game specifically attracts hate but online gaming in general has this issue. Video games and hiding your identify make it very easy for someone with little control in their real life to feel some sort of power online, or not and then the people on the other end feel their frustration either way.
Unfortunately in most if not all online video games you will be part of someone’s outlet whether you want to or not and need to make the mature choice to ignore it eventually. TF2 since 2007 has made be very numb to it but other people react differently especially when most of them are probably younger than my “generation” of gamers who have already been used to horrific images being sprayed on walls or casual racism on the mic. Sometimes the way people react merely makes things worse.
Because in TF2 and other games with larger teams, you can isolate toxic players without ruining games. Can’t do it in Overwatch or other games with small teams.
Every online game has a lot of toxicity because it’s a safe haven to prove your skills in a competitive environment. This means that no matter what you say, do or not do, there will be 0 consequences in real life. Humans are very competitive by nature, so add this competition along with a say-what-you-want-for-free card, you get toxicity.
For example if you play football and the enemy scores, you don’t go to EUFA and complain about what is broken in the system and what not, you’ll never get to see a ball again in your life. In overwatch, if a widowmaker oneshots you, you can freely express in match chat or forums your mind. You can tell them they’re sh@@, they’re lucky or w/e.
Same thing for your team, if a teammate in football doesn’t pass you the ball you can’t just ‘troll’ (sit down and don’t move for example in the field). In overwatch you can do just that.
The reason it’s so HIGH compared to other online games is because in overwatch it feels terrible when you die to someone else due to abilities + shooting + fast-paced combined. There’s too many things to keep in mind that can kill you and when you die to one of those things you wanna @!@!@#!@$!@. At least for me, idk how other people feel. I’d rather die 20 deaths in league of legends than 2 deaths in overwatch.
For me personally, league experience is more pleasant when it comes to toxicity. In league you can do your own thing and still win, in OW you can’t so you have to embrace and accept the tilt which is horrible.
True, if you isolate a human from the world they won’t be competitive, it’s the society’s design and government-forced jobs that make us competitive. But this still doesn’t change the fact.
