Why do people want hard cc back

Real counter is stealth - because flanker can’t get to you, if one doesn’t know, where you are.

Countering mobility heroes is about understanding how their mobility works, apply your aim at the weak points of mobility.

Vs Genji you can easily hit him when he wall climbs because the movement is predictable. You can also easily hit him after the apex of his double jump because the movement is again predictable. If he tries to double jump over your head to gimbal lock your view, you can also gimbal lock him back with reverse movement so he can’t land clear shots on you.

never said it was my most played role this season stop putting words in my mouth it my most played role for the last 7 years.

yes, that’s my point you can master a character’s aim you will counter almost every her in the game yet people don’t want that they want an easy button kill.

you have a beam leading to you. you’re the opposite of stealth.

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Very true. Simply headshot Sojourn.

What are you talking about. The two don’t even correlate…

At least we are in agreement, even if partially. Not sure what is incorrect in my statement but hard CC was how teams managed to combat speed advantages from the other team.

Why? Because they are used to being cuddled by having the safety net of shields and CC. Now it is gone they cry.

Which you disconnect or hide, if you suspect being chased by flanker. So you can be quite stealthy, when you need it.

Basically, the only argument against CC are people’s feelings. If they can be balanced properly, they should be brought back.

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Your most played hero is Genji. You are not a support main so stop pretending to speak on behalf of supports just because you want your favourite ninja buffed and all his counters nerfed.

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you have to be trolling on god.

it takes not skill and takes away player agency
it is unfair for one person to have it and now the whole rost
there is only one counter to it and they can’t counter it on themself
cc is inherently bad for a game based on skill.

lucio is my second most and from time to time the pass one another they are always withing 2 hours of one another i also do much better on support and play the role as a whole the most i am a support main

This is an argument made on feelings, once again. A lot of abilities in the game are easy to perform, and provide sufficient value.

You are a Genji player. This is why you are against it.

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no its not its blatant fact it is unfair to have hard cc if not everyone 1 has a way to counter it or 2 has a way to use it secondly it is inherently easier to get kills when some has no agency to protect them self.

he’s my only dps i play but i mostly play support and don’t have gold lucio icon

I don’t think anyone believes this

and i dont care belive it or not its the trust

Also Genji/sombra/doom/ball. Hell even reaper, Moira and perhaps even Dva and Sym lol. Anyone that enjoys getting right up in your face and doesn’t require pin point aim so they can ad crouch spam and/or has mobility options to get away.

You don’t even need to necessarily land or even use the stun (especially on someone like Tracer who you will never actually hit anyway). The threat alone limits how aggressive they can play.

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You’re not a support main, and first you said within 20 hours, not 2. Genji is your most played hero, you ask for Genji buffs on the forums and argue supports, including Brig are fine where they are. Stop arguing under “I’m a support main” and be honest and say “I’m a Genji main and I don’t want supports to be good”.

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learn to punctuate…i could NOT read that

I said they are all within 20hours of each other not that each have 20 hours between one another

Is cc the caucausion version of BBC?