Only works if he would hit anything. At long range his arrows become increasingly unreliable unless you spam stationary targets or slow moving tanks.
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Legit the only hero he can semi consistently headshot from long range is Widow but that is only because she practically stands still to take a shot and against any good Widow they will move after every shot.
Hanzo is not good at long range! He canāt reliably snipe anything and if he does land a headshot I will be honest I say it was mostly luck. You have zero control over the enemy movements, even if you have amazing prediction skills there is only so much you can predict. That is why Hanzo is played at medium range, believe it or not his arrows are still pretty damn slow (slower than Meiās) and trying to āsnipeā with him will just result in spam/trash damage.
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The major thing about Hanzo at long range is he doesnāt have to hit every shot, he doesnāt even have to get 1/5. his arrows leave very little trace unlike Widow. He doesnāt have a huge red line telling your enemies exactly where you are if you miss a shot.
Hanzo also doesnāt have to reload, nor is he locked into Tunnel vision by using a scope. He can even jump around, climb walls and strafe at full speed while charging and firing his arrows. So yes heās not One shot, One kill but heās perfectly fine at spamming arrows down range to either get a cheeky head shot or to build up his Ult. Which like most of his kit is at least above average with very few counters at mid to long range (other than just getting out of the way).
The fact it can come straight out of a wall only makes it worse, if any thing long range dragons get people more often as they let their guard down after a few seconds. On top of all that a good Hanzo can get his ult every minute or two.
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Hanzo is very streaky and people notice the hot streak far more than when heās cold.
The counter play to Hanzo is also relatively unclear on many heroes. Heās got one shots, heās got movement, heās got range potential, and heās got spray at close range. He also has an ability that lets him see where you are.
Yes, the Hanzo player probably can and will mess up but, the player fighting against him primarily sees the one shots and getting spammed down.
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He could do with a tune up number wise to stop Spamzo players, such as a harsher damage nerf, lower projectile speed and much heavier arc for people who donāt draw back properly (wouldnāt hurt too much because most people higher up use him midish range) as well as some storm arrow tweaks, such as lower base damage for higher headshot multiplier, reducing headshots on it or even reducing the arrow amount.
At the moment trying to tune Hanzo would probably make him rather mediocre, especially how this meta is going to shift (beyblade returning maybe along with dive tanks to avoid enemy reapers)
Because he one shot someone and theyāre salty about it
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Wallhack check.
Ult that goes tru walls check
Good at mid range? Check
Good at close range? Check
Good at long range? Check
Potential 250 (most heroes have 200hp) hp in one shot K.O? Check
No reload? Check
Can escape constantly every short time? Check
Wall climb? Check
Burst damage ? Check
Can shut down dive characters ; yes ? Check.
Low footstep sound? Check
Dunno, maybe he is OP.
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Nearly everything you said was true for pre-rework Hanzo. His ult was considered one of the worst in the game and it still is.
Also his movement speed is slowed when charging and holding arrows. Itās all good Hanzo can be so good on paper but the fact is he is inconsistent by nature because of projectiles and thatās why pros also donāt use him.
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I would agree with you if Hanzo was over-performing in lower ranks but he is in fact very similar to Widow.
In bronze his win-rate is 43.32%, while Widowās is 41.54%.
Sure he could be made slightly worse for bad players but he already doesnāt perform very well.
Itās not like he scales with mechanical skill as much as Widow either, with her outperforming him in GM.
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Loads of HP and armor? Check.
No reload? Check.
Burst damage? Check.
Extreme vertical and horizontal mobility? Check.
Two lives? Check.
Very high damage ult that comboes with everything? Check.
Can shut down ultimates? Check.
Can play with dive, goats, 2-2-2, and any other meta? Check.
Can shut down and bully dps players? Check.
Good in every rank from bronze to OWL? Check.
Meta for 10 seasons in a row? Check.
I can do this too.
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Haha I laugh every time I see those type of posts.
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Heās one of the least consistent heroes in the game but if you have a good match with him you feel like a terminator. Other times he does no damage, especially if you canāt land shots on Tracer, Genji or pharamercy. On paper he should be used in progames but heās a hit and miss performer and investing time into him is a bad return.
Lower level players can feel oppressed by him spamming down chokes. Hanzo doesnāt earn those kills, enemy players offer them up freely so they get pissed off. Its annoying getting one shot but at least there are easy ways to play around it, also shields and bubbles screw Hanzo over.
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Can he one shot? I donāt think so.
No one wants to get close from Hanzo, because it only makes your head bigger for him.
hanzo is op if you got skills, if you canāt headshot a pharah consistently as hanzo you donāt have enough skills to make him op. maybe obnoxious but balanced.
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He can only shoot about 1 shot per second, even missing once against Tracer can mean dead Hanzo!!
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then donāt miss. thatās the point of hanzo, land your shots and win.
you even get sonar arrow to help you predict shots.
the issue why heās not considered op is because itās hard to land those shots consistently, but if you do you take over the game.
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I donāt even know why you posted this but I think you are on the wrong thread.
As said many times before he is powerful at all ranges, and if you want to claim he isnāt powerful at long range, then why the hell does a āshort/midā range spammy hero have insta kill shots? You donāt see Mccree or genji one shotting. Sure thereās doomfist but he literally needs to send himself into the enemy to kill them, not peek around corners the whole game until he gets that lucky shot.
Pre change Hanzo arrow speed was fine it just didnāt have loads of unskilled players playing him just look at wraxu.
If he simply only got storm arrow and leap I would probably be fine but the increased arrow speed? Now that is what is probably causing all the annoyance from him.
Overall, Hanzo is just a horrible hero to play against. The guy isnāt even focusing you then BAM you died from a random arrow.
Tanks canāt kill him because of fan the arrow.
200hp heroes risk too much going after him.
Widow stands completely still to snipe him and if she misses Hanzo can keep dancing around until he gets a lucky shot.
Sure Hanzo has some skill but if there was levels of skill Hanzo would be right down there but just above Brigitte.
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hanzo main btw.
His storm arrow is pretty overturned and does too much damage
The goal was to make you realize how pointless it is to make a list of a heroās strength and pretend it means anything without context or their weaknesses, but it looks like it didnāt work
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