and it should be okay for all of us to look back now and say that that was a huuuuuuuuge mistake.
Maybe, but the way I see it, it was inevitable
Just like hero limits
5v5 is not happening because of Brig in the slightest.
Itâs happening because they want to redefine the tank role and make them more brawley and less âstand back and protect the teamâ
as well as make matches easier to understand and less chaotic
Overwatch game director Aaron Keller announced the change during a livestream on Thursday.
Keller said that the new team composition for Overwatch 2 will consist of two damage heroes, two support heroes, and one tank. Keller explained that âtanks can be problematicâ and ânoisy,â and that Blizzard has âalways tried to make our combat easy to read and very understandable and ⌠sometimes itâs just hard to track what 11 other players are doing on the battlefield. Removing two of those simplifies everything and it allows players to understand everything thatâs happening around them and make better choices because of it.â
Keller noted that Overwatch PvP has changed drastically over the years, going from âno limitsâ hero selection to limiting players to just one instance of a hero per team to instituting role queue. Blizzard has also tested multiple team compositions and sizes (4v4, 7v7), and that they hope 5v5 will make Overwatch 2 easier to understand for players and viewers.
The change from 6v6 to 5v5 will mean big changes for tank characters, Keller noted, making them more aggressive and âmore hybrid-y on the damage side.â
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Seems you are denial now, ok see the situation now.
Luckily Blizzard are finally ignoring people want a casual game and are starting to make this game better competitive.
5vs5 is the first good start and even better reduce the tank to 1, specially because shields tanks was the first thing to make this game really casual, reinhard for first.
hero limits happened at the inception of the game, forced role que happened like 3 years later, huge diff of what was really needed and the viewership/ player count has dropped rapidly
im sorry, but do you really think with all of the devs saying reduce dps que times that would happen if we didnt have 2-2-2 role lock where we had to rely on tanks to que up??? seriously?? you believe what you just said?
This is correct. I remember RoleQ being talked about (not widely, but some) when I started playing during Triple/Quad Tank. Based on Jeffâs timeline, development on RoleQ started before GOATS became meta, and potentially before it was even ever used at all. Plenty of GOATS-like comps that played similarly had existed by then (aforementioned Triple/Quad Tank, Slambulance), and that was only one of several reasons for RoleQâs implementation. GOATS may have solidified the developerâs confidence in their decision, but it wasnât the cause of RoleQ.
Besides, Brigitte didnât even cause GOATS. She kinda caused Double Sniper, though that was equally so caused by the reworked Mercy have superb synergy with snipers and nerfs to Dive heroes making it much safer to run snipers & Rein/Zarya than it was during Dive. GOATS was just a modified version of Slambulance at first, anyway (subbed out Hog for Brigitte), and it didnât become meta until Mercy got nerfs and Lucio got fat buffs (which, ironically, coincided with a Brigitte nerf). Brigitte was a big part of GOATS, but Lucio & Zarya were far more integral to it and far more responsible for its power (especially Lucio).
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Nuh uh we are not doing this again.
Leave these topics in the last decade.
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Iâm not talking about dps queue times anywhere
Iâm telling you what the game directorâs reason for 5v5 was (I quoted the entire thing so you and others can see) and I just summarized it in a few sentences
Did you really think your first post ever saying âdelete Brigâ was gonna go well?
you may not be talking about dps queue times, but thats exactly what the devs were talking about during both the ow2 pvp showcase and the ama
and those queue times both stem from the addition of brig
Wait, the problem is entirely brig? Not tank combos?
Your name tells me youâre a troll so I wanna hear the response.
i mean, its pretty obvious right? was there goats prior to brig? and how is my name troll? âŚ
More you continue and more seems you are angry only because you get killed too much time by brigitte(maybe when you using doomfist considered you talked of him get potentially rightfully nerfed).
Listen, tank combos like double shield, D.vaâs old DM and stats, and a bunch of stuff contribute to this games bad balance.
Brig caused 1 bad meta.
Mercy caused a bad meta for a WHOLE YEAR.
brig caused a meta that literally forced role que. theres no comparison my friend. theres literally no justification you can make besides making up arguments saying that its from other variables which we all know its not. this all stemmed from brig.
Rip Brig I guess. Sheâs evil incarnate.
also not calling an imaginary personality in a video game evil, just saying, her being created by the devs is whats causing the game to be changed for the worst
really no need to dramatize it. im simply stating that the hero is bad for the game, im not talking about the people that play her, or her as a staple in the OW lore. she is just simply horrific for the game.
Some players really not understand how much shield tanks can create real problem, specially when they do synergy.
No itâs Brig. Sheâs OP.
i completely agree. she has no place in the game and was added as a hard counter to heroes that people have since learned to counter.
and yet we are still looking down the scope at 5v5 due to her
Brig or any other hero is not gonna be deleted
GOATS is not even played anymore
5v5 is coming whether we want it or not (I personally am not a fan)
These are the facts