this has been explain over 100 times. it’ll take too long to find a match here’s why
if 2 people are avoided by each and every person
it means basically if any player attempts to que with any other player out of the 5 on your team can’t have any player that other players also avoided same goes for the enemy team while 24 less people (6 * 2 * 2 teams) doesn’t sound like a lot the population is reduced not only to the current people online but the people specifically searching for a game at the same time as you and in higher ranks esp top 500 not all 500 will be online at once let alone queing at the same time. so it’s not 500 - 24 for potential games but however many people are online so lets say 200 are online but 100 are already in game so only 76 and if enough people avoid enough unique players (not every player avoiding the same) it can be very hard to find a combination of players who are allowed on each team with each other.
simpler example u have 24 players trying to make one team
1 avoids 2 and 3. 2 avoids 3 and 4…etc and 24 avoids 1 and 2.
since one avoids two and 3 and 23 avoids 1 and 24 and 24 avoids 1 and 2 they can only be paired with 4-22
but since 21 avoids 22 and 23 now 1 can only be paired with 4-18 if 21 is queing too since 19 & 20 are avoiding 21. that’s just the start since every other teammate found to remove not only who you avoided but who each and every teammate avoided too. so if 1 pairs with 4 that reduces it again to the team being 1,21,4 only be able to find 6-18 and this reduces each time for every game.
even with larger player bases that are valid it takes tons of time to sort through it and sometimes a certain path won’t work so this who search and reduce potential teammates has to be done again especially if someone cancels a que for being too long
You just proved his point. People will use it against teammates that won’t bend their knee for them. Pick what i want or get avoided because i don’t like your pick choice.
Im already find unfair matches due to avoid
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im a doomfist main and I know I get a lot of hate,but this is unfair.
I lost 400 sr just because I get very 1 sided games from avoid as team mate from players in groups
A player should be allowed to put as many people as they want on the avoid list.
But they should also understand that the more people they put on the list, the longer the queue times will be.
It’s a double edged sword. You can say you don’t want to play with 100+ people, but maybe after seeing that 10+ min queue you decide maybe some of them weren’t so bad.
Actually if you notice I clearly state I want to play Hanzo and start with Hanzo. Then I switch to another character if that’s needed for the team comp.
What you are saying is that you are using avoid player just because someone chooses to use a character at all which isn’t it’s intended purpose.
Jeff said 2 player slots is the starting point, and if the system needs to be adjusted in the future they may add more slots.
I for one welcome this mechanic. I have been the victim of a Trio group of throwers. I had them on my team for 4 out of 5 matches. Since they were in a group, if we had this mechanic at the time, it would have allowed me to avoid them by simply avoiding one of them.
You make it sound like it only hurts the Hanzo player. In low population environments it hurts the person avoiding players as it does the player getting avoided. If there are 7 people in queue and one person avoids the Hanzo while the other 5 people did not, who do you think is going to be waiting in queue for longer?
Lol see that’s you just not liking Hanzo again that’s not what the feature is there for. You ARE also probably one of those people who try to tell people not to play certain characters at all so most likely just a toxic player.
The issue being you have more people like Vortex unfortunately. I literally stopped playing quick play for a year due to being harrased just from picking Hanzo even though I do switch.
Yeah. 2 is just nowhere near enough. It’s a drop in the toxic ocean that is Overwatch Competitive.
The duration also needs to be permanent, not a week.
I don’t care if it makes my queue times longer if it means I can be guaranteed of not running into any of the trolls/throwers/smurfs/toxic players that I’ve encountered.
It is very possible cause unfortunately there are many people like Vortex who abuse other players in chat alone. If they are using avoid player as pick just for choosing to play a character then they will get that player banned for a week even if they didn’t do anything to deserve it.
I don’t talk when I get 1 bad hero in my team.
I used to dodge q for 5 minutes when I finish a match with anyone playing said heroes thought, even if they were on enemy team.
Now I can safely q constantly without wasting my time. I get around 2 to 3 hours to play the game, and dodge queueing always wasted a lot of my time.
Heck I managed to reach diamond for the first time on PC after adding the feature. I’m saying that it’s the best thing they ever added to the game.
You are correct I rewatched Jeff Kaplans explanation. The issue still stands though that people will be abusing it like Vortex. Though if they don’t increase the number it should be fine. I honestly don’t know how Vortex thinks they are going to avoid as teammate all Hanzos because if Hanzo is such a plague and someone is one tricking them they are likely to use their 2 slots right off the bat and how they will avoid Hanzo that do switch to other characters make no sense. And lol they could avoid me but I normally switch to tank or healer due to not liking many of the DPS and enjoying healer(not symetra though I do like her I count her as defense) my only other pick is normally Sombra if we need someone on DPS.