Why are people so cruel in this game?

So…I’m a teacher. Will you listen to me?

SOMETIMES it’s the parents, yes. But a lot of the time, the parents are actually very nice people and the child is just awful. The problem is overestimated. Some children are born bad, at the end of the day.

They’re not. People have just gotten softer.

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Same. It’s always so nice when they respond to the first or second with “What did I do?” Or “Why are you attacking me?”.

When its a business doing it on a platform they own, I think you’re right, but here in the US, the government doing this blatantly in tandem with law enforcement agencies, is what I meant specifically (because its verified at this point the government DID in fact wage psyops and censor on twitter via proxy because the company was willing to do their bidding at the time). Direct and out in the open policies from the government and enforced.

I’ve been saying this for years, that telling everyone they’re special for simply existing is actually a terrible thing to do. I’ve had this conversation with friends so many times, that when you give people all the accolades and praise for essentially doing nothing, they don’t have a reason to do anything. They’re told they’re special, and therefore, never try to become genuinely special. Then reality hits home when they grow up - they’re not special, maybe one day, but not today, but they think they are! And they blame the world for short comings in what turns into a budding narcissism.

And that narcissism goes full blown when you introduce social media into the equation. I call it ‘main character syndrome’ for social media users that become fanatical in their views and beliefs and think the world is waiting for their every message/tweet/video/etc.

Gym teachers don’t count! What do you teach, what level, and to what effect? How might one tell that you’re actually a teacher?

This feels sus at minimum, even if you are a (born) educator. Part of the job is to find out why they’re behaving badly and help discover a path forward for that child. Psycho/sociopaths do exist, but in percentiles of 0-1% of the total population (so part of one child that requires a diagnosis in every 100 you teach; which is about one every 4 years of average [public school]-sized classes), or 10 truly psycho kids on average in a 40-year career of teaching. Fewer, if class sizes are under 33 kids.

Ew I hate sports.

English! High school level, I end up teaching mostly freshmen, but I’ve had some sophomores and juniors too.

Yes, it is. However, I’ve come to realize that those paths simply don’t exist for some kids. While some act the way they do because of a bad home life, or bad experiences with their peers, others act like that just to act like that. You always look for a “why”, yes. That doesn’t mean that you’ll find one, or that there is one. Sometimes you can teach kids to not act like that just to act like that, but that has to be early on. It’s far too late for me to do that. It’s like starting a hotel to rehabilitate sinners in hell. Not gonna happen.

I’m not talking about murdering birds or anything like that. But insults, threats, etc., especially over the internet. They weren’t taught to do that. Most were actively taught not to(Most schools have lots of anti bullying lessons, even though they do absolutely nothing). You don’t have to be a psychopath or sociopath to be a bad person. And you don’t have to be a bad person to be a psychopath or sociopath.

After being a teacher for a little while you start to realize these things. I’ll work with any kid for literal hours unpaid to help them understand the subject and pass my class. I go out of my way to make lessons interesting and engaging, even putting on Bleach for the class a few times for key quotes that I really enjoy. But what I won’t do is continue trying to reform a kid that doesn’t have the slightest possibility of changing. That’s a waste of both of our time. Some children do have the possibility to change, and I’ll work with them to make it happen. But unfortunately, a lot also don’t. I could spend 10 minutes or 10 years trying to help them and it won’t do a thing. It’s easy to be optimistic about every child’s future when you don’t work with them daily.

This has to be one of the lamest things I’ve read on this forum, and that’s saying something.

No gonna lie but by accepting the friend invite, you 100% consented to be harassed. Blizzard shouldn’t intervene in this matter, because, you know, you’re FRIENDS.

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I know the truth hurts.

only thing you can do is report the player ive seen racism in this game i feel more should be done about some if the racist things people are saying in the game

rofl @ reddit lucio. i mean come on i agree ppl are mean on this game but that not that bad compared to the real hate that goes on in this game.

Sooo you picked the most boring subject in the entire school and wonder why a bunch of 13-16yos are absolute demons bordering on psychopathy in your class!?

I’m 3⁄4 joking, but that could have something to do with you thinking “kid’s just bad”. As a teen, I also became a tiny bit destructive if I wasn’t properly stimulated, but generally speaking I was a little nerd and usually a great student. I’ve had excellent English teachers but also one of my worst was a harpy (who I had the misfortune of having twice for the exact same class). As her Gr12 student, I was checked out, a bit disruptive, didn’t respect her where I could get away with it, and ended her class with a 50% after getting a 90% from her sister in Grade 9. As luck would have it, I got her sister again for remedial summer school (the exact same course) and bumped that 50% to an 80% in two weeks. All of that to say a ton depends on the teacher and the subject.

Certain amounts of cruelty can be found within the maturing process of a lot of people. Surging hormones and the the feeling of wanting to belong alongside trying to forge your own identity for yourself is complicated. I agree with you, ‘mean’ kids aren’t all sociopaths, but in the vast majority of cases there’s a(n often fair) reason someone acts like a jerk. And learned behaviour can be unlearned. Genetic issues can often be treated with therapy or medication.

The science and social science literature says the cases in which ‘there isn’t a reason’ are so few and far between it’s probably negligible to talk about. Things have reasons, whether we are willing to admit we can find them or not. This is especially true for complex human behaviours like social interactions and relationships. I do not accept the premise that people are ‘just whatever’ for no reason. It’s a lazy way of looking at real issues.

If you truly believe this, IDK if you should be teaching 14yos. I genuinely don’t mean to insult you, but it sounds like you’re just giving up on certain kids who might need your talents and patience the most. Also, if you teach in an underfunded public system you may not have even a fraction of the resources you need to do your job well or help the kids who need it most, and we both know that’s not on you. Demographics (including yours) also matter. I teach music, so I see a ton of the kids the ‘core subject’ teachers pass off as problems end up flourishing in my lessons because they actually want to be there. That’s not to imply they’re not challenging. I also know our public education sectors have had hatchets set to them for the last decades so I’m not in the public system, yet do get underprivileged students. The poverty background doesn’t matter as much as the individual student.

Lots to unpack there. I agree with you the kid/student has to want it. I believe most people do want to pass or do well or be helpful. Another difference is you teach a mandatory class, so kids can’t choose not to be there. I don’t like being forced into stuff, either, so I get that. That all said, you could still (and maybe you do) have a frank conversation with kids who DGAF. I guess I see part of the job is to convince them learning XYZ is worth it or will benefit them in the long run, or that it’s very helpful to teach/train yourself how to learn. For some kids that’s a really hard sell. If they want to check out and you’ve made the consequences abundantly clear to them, I guess you can’t do much after that. Hopefully the frequency of that situation isn’t high. I think most kids have the possibility to change, though, that’s literally part of being one.

I would hope in 10 years you’d get something done! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: In music 1on1s I go at whatever pace the student has the capacity to learn, and I also get the benefit of composing individual curricula. I’ll obviously try and push/encourage them based on how I interpret their talent, but you can have brilliant kids who just don’t want to do the work and you can’t force that, you need to meet them at their own pace or convince them to give a :poop:. For me though, if they take longer it just means more $ in my pocket and I guess that’s not the worst consequence in the world.

I’m also a mildly stubborn Ball player who my own team often enough gives up on in the spawn, so I get where problem kids are coming from. Still can turn most games around if I try, though.

English has always been one of my favorite subjects. People always call it boring until they actually read a good book.

It absolutely does not, because it’s not disproportionately bad for me compared to any other teacher.

That sounds very illegal on that teacher’s part if she’s literally giving grades out based on how much she likes a student. I don’t do that. Especially with how many of my teachers hated me(Fight, 40+ days missed school, etc.) But I still had straight As because the subjects came easily to me.

Only before 11 or so. I’ve found legitimate reasons for 14 year olds, but…they’re not exactly common. You know how they act, not all of them have a reason. Most of them don’t.

Yes, but only if you actually want it. I’m not a wizard. I can’t reform someone who doesn’t want to change, and I can’t even teach someone who doesn’t want to learn. No one can.

To an extent, which I feel is important to specify. I work at a school with a lot of special needs kids. All are medicated. All are problems for the other students, almost daily. I don’t blame them, because it’s of course out of their control, but they’re living proof that you can’t just fix people with medicine.

I don’t believe that. I genuinely do not. I have meetings with the parents of kids that make themselves problems. I don’t notice any red flags at all most of the time(Although I will say, sometimes it really is the parents and you can ALWAYS tell when that is). “There isn’t a reason” is fairly common in my experience.

I don’t give up on anything that I have the potential of doing anything about. I never look at someone and give up, I spend an hour or so and see what I can do. Very often, there’s no anything. If a kid doesn’t want to change, I can’t make them. And I’m sure I don’t have to tell you how many don’t want to change.

Oh, I know that well. I teach in a very poor area with a lot of crime. Which, to be fair, probably DOES have something to do with it. But I also grew up in a place like that and did just fine, so I know it’s not always that.

And yeah, I seriously wish I had some extra money to buy things to make class more interesting for kids. And of course to help keep them quiet and hopefully focused on the lesson. I do hope that you realize it by now though. I’m not talking about the kids who can’t pay attention in class, or the ones who can be a disruption through talking or something similar. No, I’m talking about the kids that harm others, whether that’s beating them up or just insulting them. I don’t care if someone doesn’t have the ability to always pay perfect attention. I don’t even blame people for not paying attention to any lesson in school. I certainly didn’t.

I love music teachers! My orchestra teacher was my favorite one. And I totally understand this and have literally seen it with my former classmates and even now. But I’m not talking about kids that are struggling. Struggling, not caring, etc. Are not enough to make you a problem in my eyes.

That’s what I always say as well. Someone growing up in a family without a lot of money doesn’t give them an excuse for anything. Fortunately, most of the less poor people I’ve had the pleasure of meeting are wonderful.

Mmm, sure. Maybe for a subject like yours, but mine? Nah. I can’t blame them though, music was the only class I actually put effort into practicing and studying(Especially because I was not good at it at all starting out with, so it was a fun challenge).

I have, but it’s also way harder for me to do this than really anyone else. I don’t honestly think English should be a core subject in high school. It’s incredibly useful, sure, but there’s not that many jobs people actively go for that requires them to even have good English skills. You have to take the actual class, sure, but you absolutely do not have to pay attention. And the smarter ones know this.

Oh I don’t mind if people don’t pay attention, that’s never been my issue. I get it, people don’t want to listen to a rant about anything English, especially grammar or something similar. It’s the kids that are actively malicious that are the problem.

I do agree that everyone has the potential to change. But they have to want it.

I love kids like that! They’ve never been a problem. They don’t care but they usually get good grades because they just pass all of their tests. That’s what I would always do in school :joy:

I’m a super stubborn Tracer main that will force her into any comp, so I totally get that. So many people tell me “swap off Tracer”, but I can usually make her work. Oh and don’t get me started on people who main her too, because I’ll ALWAYS lock her first and will not let them play :rofl:

Look, I’ll work with any kid that wants to change, that’s part of my job. But the main problem, at least imo, is that the majority do not want to change. I can’t fix that.

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I was a bit slow to learn to read as a boy, but eventually made the extracurricular Book Battle club in Gr7. For me, the first book that gripped me like that was The Outsiders. I still adore it and it might still be my favourite. I also love LOTR. Couldn’t stand aGoT, probably because of the Sansa chapters. I respect Martin, but don’t like his writing. I like some nonfiction as well, but it has to obviously be very well written.

That all said, I don’t think I’m breaking any new ground when I say most students find English to be boring, especially in HS. I think our Grade 9 teacher had us do The Chrysalids and Crabbe (I thought both were fine).

A very long and very stupid story nobody should want/have to read.

To be clear, I checked out of her class(es) because of her. I dropped the class 1st semester cause I had 30% by midterm, so she convinced me to take a spare. 2nd sem I got her again and the school admin refused to let me switch classes (even though there was another one running during the exact same period). She gave the exact same assignments and readings as 1st sem and told me I couldn’t hand in the same work, she claimed I was self-plagiarizing. So I told her she was self-plagiarizing her assignments and to make me new ones, that I obviously had the same opinions on the same stuff she gave us as I did 5mo ago. She obviously didn’t like that, and the lazy cow of course didn’t bother to do the work to challenge me, so I coasted.

For our independent study project, we were to choose two (old) adult books to compare and contrast. I was bored AF so I asked if I could read all 3 LOTR books and all the Harry Potter books that were out (up to Goblet of Fire) and contrast them, as there were many parallels that I saw. She told me no, the HP books weren’t adult enough. I argued that I offered to read three full adult books plus the kids books but she didn’t budge. At first I was like fine you old slag, I’ll show you and chose Oliver Twist and Sale of Two Tiddies. They were both way too dry and dense (and as the year dragged on and I respected her less) so I just readjusted to pick the same two books a buddy of mine did the semester before, ‘borrowed’ his essay and effectively reworded/restructured it, and handed that steaming :poop: in and got 73% or something. She didn’t catch (nor let on if) she suspected any plagiarism. In my 17yo head I was like: oh you’re gonna falsely accuse me of some BS, eh? Here’s some BS, enjoy it. She also forced us to read Stone Angel and I just… didn’t. Hagar was horrible, last I heard.

The only thing of value and good quality I did in that class was play Hamlet for III, i, both semesters. Hamlet storms out at the end of his nunnery argument there so I asked if I could slam the door to just leave the class and never return (Scar) for Sem1. It went well.

There were other reasons that school year was scuffed for the entire grade, but this story is too long already.

TL;DR: she was a trash educator.

I mean mental health pathologies and undiagnosed psychological disorders exist into adulthood, even into ages past 11.

I think we found the factors behind your strong bias. When I make most of the blanket statements I do, I often try to make them as general as possible to be able to apply to as many people as possible. It’s likely that what you see daily, I could go most of my life without seeing once. Kids and teens are also notoriously difficult to medicate because you need to find the right combo, right doses, and right environments for the medicines to be as effective as possible. Some teens are also very poor at consistency (or taking medicine regularly, at the same time every day). That becomes exacerbated when they have sociological factors making it even harder for them (or parents with no insurance to cover all the time). It’s not easy.

Ever go fishing? Any fish ever escape? :stuck_out_tongue: Silly analogy but I think you get my point. (Rhetorically) What % of your peers are doing as well as you are?

I mean you can look it up, but you’re not a student of psychiatry, psychology, or behavioral studies. I’m not either, but I’ve looked into therapy fields as well as guidance counselling. I guess you could call it a weird hobby. In that, I can assure you most people (the vast majority) have reasons driving their behaviour, regardless of if it’s obvious or not. Again, when you just say ‘oh she just crazy (or whatever)’ it’s lazy and doesn’t often serve either that person nor you to pass it off. Sure, you might not have the bandwidth to be able to put the time and care in on top of your other responsibilities of tons of other kids’ problems, but that doesn’t mean nobody should help or be able to. That’s one spot the dearth of support exists in our public systems, as well as our greater society.

You kind of do have to tell me, lol. We work in very different scopes. These days I usually work 1 on 1 and usually, the parents or students themselves need to be able to have the resources to take lessons. I offer discounts when they don’t, but I also need to be able to feed myself. I just live in a very diverse city so have had lots of different kinds of students.

This (and the IG/TikTok teachers begging for money for supplies) gets me extremely angry. Frankly, I think we should abolish all private school systems and force the rich and poor kids to go to school together, usually then rich parents GAF about what’s happening in public schools as well as offer resources to try and give their kids a leg up (resources that can help thousands of children after their kid graduates). It boils my blood that in North America we don’t take public education seriously. And our kids are usually much dumber for it. I’d be miserable working within a system like that on a daily basis.

My band teacher, too. I probably model a lot of my behaviour and teaching style after him. Interestingly my very worst teacher was a music teacher, as well. Almost stole a trombone from his dept (we had 14+ and I was the only player) for how much he singled me out and made me suffer that year. I shudder to think of how many thousands of kids he turned off music.

I told you that you taught the worst thing in school! JK, that’s calculus or gym. Maybe econ?

Kids who have a little less natural talent but try really hard to get better often make the best students and musicians, in my experience. Every so often you’ll get a prodigy who also has a monster work ethic, but usually it’s the kids who have to work more for it that stick with it and do really well. It’s also a great life lesson. Sadly, I had too much natural talent so now I’m stuck playing Ball.

I mean that’s what makes it so important, right? Personally, I’d go about it telling the student that I genuinely don’t actually care how well they personally do in my class. I’d like for them to do well, but it won’t ultimately affect me. It’ll probably affect them, though. That I can’t take the class for the kid and how much they put in is what they get out. Putting into English class means they can become a better analyzer, writer, and communicator outside of school, which will open doors for them that they’ll otherwise likely slam into during adulthood. Plus that gets harder to learn the older you get. I’d also tell them they don’t have to learn from you. There’s an entire internet that might engage them to learn better but for their own personal development, it only helps them to get good at those skills. That you can fail them and they might be just fine, but at some point they’ll probably regret tossing away that time and opportunity that they have right now where all they need to do is learn, cause life can get pretty hard after. But ultimately, it’s completely up to them and you get to move on either way.

Or some approximation of that. If a student is acting up for me I’ll usually ask why or what’s going on (depending on how disruptive they are). If they really keep it up I ask them if they want me to leave because I get paid either way and I’m not going to get in any trouble if I go, but they might. That usually does the trick. I’m also fully prepared to follow up on my bluff and clear that with the parents beforehand.

I mean, I agree. At this point I think the only mandatory classes should be science cause I’ve seen what some Americans type online about masks and vaccines and such…

I didn’t write a conclusion. Grade me on the above and summarize for yourself XD

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Outsiders was alright, but I’ll always love any Cassandra Clare book. She’s my go to. I’d recommend checking her out! First book in her best series is called City of Bones.

Oh that’s definitely true.

That’s true, but while they aren’t an extreme minority, they’re still a minority.

That’s entirely possible. I try not to be biased, but…well, it’s impossible not to be at some level.

I wouldn’t call being a teacher doing well, but, I’d guess maybe half? I don’t know, how many students ANYWHERE are even successful? America is pretty horrible in terms of that, and you see a lot of people on the streets.

Well, the thing is, I DO try. I only give up after being completely sure there’s nothing I can do. I do agree that a lot of kids don’t get the help they need, but I find that’s more of a problem with elementary schools than anything else. Is a kid throwing a fit because they’re a normal 10 year old, or do they have severe autism or something like that? Hard to tell.

Oh so you’re fancy fancy :joy:

In a public school, the kids don’t want to be there. Everyone who takes your class is going to want to be there, unless they were forced by the parents, so you probably don’t get a lot of bad behavior, right? In a public school it’s a lot different. More kids, so larger chance for bad behavior, and they don’t want to be there, which makes it worse.

Totally agree. You can always tell when someone rich goes to a public school, because those are always the ones with a working ac. It’s THAT bad. We’re seriously underfunded. Our education system is a complete and utter joke, just because the schools never pay for repairs or supplies at any level that’s good enough. We dip into our own paychecks to do our job to keep making…more paychecks. It’s ridiculous, and every other country laughs at us about that just like they do with everything else.

Oh God that sounds absolutely awful. How do you even make such an inherently fun subject unenjoyable?

Gym. I HATED gym. Also, for whatever reason, all of my childhood gym teachers were either a p*do or a horrible person. My grandma stopped subbing at my district because of my elementary school gym teacher, and I literally saw my middle school gym teacher taking pictures of kids. The latter got fired for it, but they REHIRED HIM at the elementary school. Which still makes me mad, because something probably did happen.

I love that. I wish I had stuck with music. It would’ve been so much fun to be a music teacher. Funny thing is, that was my first idea for a job until I realized I couldn’t be a cello one trick teacher.

Yes, but also no. Anyone who’s smart enough to realize my class isn’t essential can just ignore me, and anyone dumb enough not to care about their education will do the same. Most can get a lot of students to listen, I can only get someone who isn’t dumb OR smart. Which at this point feels like a minority of kids.

I like this, but America doesn’t work in a way that this really works with imo. It’s way easier to get a job because of all of the vacancies, so you don’t have to have good English skills at all. Even for being a literal English teacher. I learned several very simple things from Google after I started teaching. I was mixing up nouns and verbs until I looked up a video in my first year teaching.

I also ask this, but for me it’s super common to hear “Nothing!”. People don’t open up to you unless they like your subject :joy: I’m sure math teachers can relate. I feel like they tie your subject with you as a person. I would always open up to my music teacher, but definitely not my gym teachers.

Also I can’t say that I’ll just leave for one kid or even do any of this in class, because my classes usually have 20+ kids.

Also math. And I honestly think Spanish should be taught as a secondary language from kindergarten, as children learn languages faster and it’s rapidly becoming more prevalent than English here. If Canada can do English and French, we can do English and Spanish.

I’d have to give you a good grade for good points and a respectful discussion. However, since we’re discussing teaching and children on a forum for an fps game, I don’t think either of our posts have really been relevant to the thread. B+ for both of us :joy:

I’ve heard of The Mortal Instruments. Should I start with the movie? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Don’t sell yourself short. You’re performing a vital service that forwards humanity, and not a shred less imo. Teachers quite literally shape the future with their work. I think everywhere is hurting at the moment, something about a pandemic and global climate event?

I’m sure you do and that’s fair. Fixing all your students’ social and mental health on top of everything else I’d say is out of your paygrade and pretty impossible.

I mean it depends on who you are and what your training is. Also, if you know and/or are around diagnosed autistic adults. But it’s not difficult for professionals to tell in most cases. I’ve worked with 10yos and they can usually be reasoned with.

If you want to call under the poverty line anyway fancy, go right ahead :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: The Pandora destroyed my clientele so now I have to start from nothing again. Luckily my country believes in more of a social safety net and I’m good at stretching a dollar. I also had a health event which was exacerbated by not being able to get surgery until it was life-threatening so I’m rebuilding, and that’s ok.

I mean I only went to public schools and I wanted to be there (for the most part). I find it comical that you think spoiled kids whose parents can give them anything they want/need (except enough discipline) behave well all the time! Kids are kids at the end of the day. Kids who come from money understand via their parents that you are hired to provide a service to them, and they can’t help but treat you how their parents treat other service workers who make less than them. Just depends on the people. I’m not complaining, but trying to pull that veil back a little. I’ve also trained and interned at public elementary and high schools (along with did an extra year of high school which was a lot of peer helping or co-op).

This breaks my heart, and I also just finished watching Abbott Elementary. But those teachers get to talk to each other way more than normal :joy:

Have you seen Whiplash? It was a lukewarm version of that (he didn’t throw anything at me). The emotional manipulation was 100% there. I asked my friends in the class if I was getting singled out or if he talked like that to everyone and they assured me I wasn’t crazy. That guy also got fired (for a while) and re-hired and I hate typing that fact out. My younger brother met him ONCE in the hall and dropped music forever after that. I think he was also dealing weed from the music room.

I wasn’t a big fan, either. But in Grade 9 we had a 24yo Gym teacher who really liked me because I was well-behaved and I tried. It was his first year teaching, and he was extremely kind to me. I ended up tied for the top mark in the grade. Dropped it like a bad habit after that mandatory first year, though, lol.

Never too late to pick it up again and you can 1000% be a cello instructor only! I probably know at least one.

I mean this does sound like the good ol’ USA. But luckily you guys also have a lot of middle-class public schools that might do a bit better.

It’s more like you make them leave. IDK if that’s an option with your principals, though.

Eh, my teachers told me I wouldn’t have a calculator in my pocket at all times growing up and guess what? I do!

Myself and many of my peers took French from Grades 4 through 9 and very few of us can speak it now. Some kids do French Immersion (full subjects in French, for years) and still can’t speak it. Some suggest it’s a waste of time. But there’s something to be said for starting younger, maybe.

Counterpoint: the thread asks WTF is wrong with people today and what makes them so gross in chat/game, I think we’re hitting on some things and displaying some reasons for it. 12/10, bonus marks!

Oh Lord do NOT. PLEASE. It’s so bad.

While that’s true, we also don’t get paychecks, just
an allowance. It might be a vital job, but it’s not a well paying one.

It is, but I do wish I could do it all. One of the reasons I even wanted to become a teacher was Assassination Classroom. I won’t be happy until I can make everyone’s tests individually and grade them faster than the speed of sound.

True, I don’t have that training. But I can never tell the difference. Kids that young just naturally annoy me no matter what, so extra disruptive behavior or over the top reactions to things will outright fly over my head.

REALLY? 1 on 1 lessons seem like they would pay a lot of money. They SHOULD pay a lot of money. There’s a lot of competition and they chose you specifically.

That sounds absolutely awful, I’m so sorry!

We are the exact opposite :joy:

I HATED going to school. I would always skip to the point I’d start getting letters. Even got visited by some people telling me that my mom would have to go to court if I kept missing.

Oh I definitely don’t, I just always thought that people who wanted a service would be nice to the people who provide it to them. I guess that’s a bit naive though in today’s society.

I never really thought about it that way! I don’t really ever interact with anyone that makes a lot of money, so I don’t have these interactions. Thanks for opening my eyes!

No, what’s it about? I actually need something new to watch too, so that should keep me entertained for the time being.

That sounds absolutely wonderful! I don’t think I’d mind gym as much with a good teacher. I’ve just never had a good one before, so I have an ingrained dislike of the subject.

I do want to try! I’ll have to save up for music lessons.

Yup! My mom is a Spanish teacher and she google translates a bunch too(She does know the language, but there are words she either doesn’t know or forgets). Gotta love the US. And she teaches at a pretty good school too, not like the one I’m at currently. I do hope that other schools do better though, because it’s kinda sad how easy it is to get hired anywhere that doesn’t have a lot of money.

That just encourages them to act up more though. You have to do something REALLY bad to get any punishment from the office, and getting sent out of class is a win for them.

Yeah, but calculators aren’t exactly answer machines. I mean, they are, but you have to know how to ask the question, and understand the answer it gives you.

I think 4th grade is too old. I believe everyone should speak at least two languages, and everyone should be taught two from birth. That’s how they do it in Canada, Mexico, etc. When you grow up learning a language it stays with you. That’s why even the dumbest Americans can speak somewhat decent English!

Ah, that is true. I didn’t think of that. I agree, A++ for both of us!

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Give these two a room or something, I think they need some alone time xD

:joy: Well now it’s for sure on the list!

Yeah, some priorities are messed up. It’s the same with nurses but they get slightly better pay (and arguably worse conditions, generally).

No one can.

Sounds like you’re on your way to the private sector!

I feel as if they are designed to be annoying. They don’t know boundaries and are trying to learn. My favourite age group to work with is 14+ but I’ve been blessed to have patience for all of it. If anything, I have less patience with adults I think should know better than kids who need to learn. This goes for OW players as well.

You get a consistent paycheque and the school deals with getting enough students to go there/get funding. I work for myself and my boss is bad at marketing. The pandemic also ruined lessons. I travel to each student’s home so there’s that on top of individual lesson plans per kid. It’s ~2hrs prep for every hour teaching, not counting my own practice to keep up skills. As you get better you can cut it to 1hr prep, 1hr lesson. The rate of pay per hour/lesson is higher but that doesn’t account for having to do everything else yourself (with no benefits). I know my worth, have experience, and do charge a fair wage, but it’s objectively a lot for a client to pay per week. The fact that there’s a lot of competition means you don’t have full client lists all the time.

It was, but I’ve advanced a lot.

We are. I had perfect attendance from Grade 3-12. :nerd_face: Grade 2 I had chicken pox.

Talk to food servers. Esp fast food workers.

Welcome to hell! Mo Money Mo Problems, as a poet once said.

It’s horrid and very anxious, but well done. I’m also very biased here. It’s about a college jazz drummer who wants to be one of the greats and a teacher that pushes him towards that by any means necessary.

I’m in Canada and was speaking form experience. English Canada usually starts French in Grade 4, if your province/area teaches French. If you’re in Quebec a lot of stuff is in French, but the kids don’t have the same desire for language/culture preservation (or xenophobic tendencies) the boomers have. Except XQC. That guy was raised by wolves (and Twitch chat).

Huzzah!

Oh definitely. I could NEVER be a nurse. First of all, you have to deal with a bunch of gross stuff my stomach couldn’t handle. Then creeps. :grimacing:

Or the mental hospital, literally breaking my brain trying to do it.

Yes. Absolutely yes.

I do understand having more patience for kids. I’m kinda similar, except I don’t do patience at all. I get more angry at adults, but I’ll get annoyed at the same rate :joy:

Oh, so it’s a party princess type of thing. You make a fair bit but also expend a decent amount trying to even do your job. Because if you don’t, the other company, or in this case, teacher, will steal your business.

Really? You never just skipped? Even once?

Always saw that as a “You’re not you when you’re hungry” when I worked at Subway. Then again, it’s Subway, so not a lot of Karens.

Really? That’s actually pretty interesting. I know a lot of Canadians and most of them learned it alongside English. I wouldn’t know from my own experience though, of course, so I believe you.

Isn’t that the guy who played like one Nurse game, called her trash, refused an offer from OTZDARVA, and quit dbd? He’s Canadian??? I mean, I know all of you aren’t nice, you’re not a monolith, but…dang.