oh really? i thought dive was to f around and do nothing, if we nerf dive this is all the meta will be.
Most (generally low elo) players donāt like fast paced gameplay. It overwhelms them, and so they complain about it till we end up back to poke. It always happens.
Iāve heard a lot of plat players even think genji was OP in overwatch 1. Yeah no, he was one of the worst dps to pick, but itās interesting to me that people perceive him that way when they get outskilled.
I personally think it comes down to an annoyance factor, but I donāt say heros I find annoying (but arenāt inherently overpowered) should be need insane nerfs. Mercy is annoying, but Iām not saying to trash the hero, I know sheās not op. Genji is a mild bit overtuned, but not overpowered. Overpowered is sojourn. Genji can still be stopped by playstyle alone. Lot less so is the case on sojourn.
If you dont see the genji listed on nearly every top 500 player you are not paying attention. Everyone canāt play Sojourn at the same time ya know?
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what? sojourn has the most op kit ever, even more than roadhog, she can oneshot kill WITH hitscan from so far away and theres no drop off damage, far easier than diving in with genji and getting killed faster than a fly
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andā¦like i said beforeā¦there is no hard counter to genji.
Seeing you argue that genji doesnt need changes just tells me you are out of touch with reality.
winston? moira? sym? ana? literally any character that is anti dive and kills squishys with ease? if you really think genji needs to be nerfed, you really just want to sit back and shoot from afar without any risk of getting killed when ur out of position, your the one out of touch with reality.
u can make a ton of mistakes as a long range hit scan/projectile smooth brain but one mistake as genji and ur dead.
I donāt actually. Are you looking at REAL comp or open queue?
What is oneshotting you? Widow that you counter? Cool story bob.
Or maybe sj, that takes forever to charge that her only value just to miss 9 out of 10 hs (sj avg rail crit is 10-18%)?
FPS game with moba elements, remember that. Aim should be 2 times more rewarded. Genji rightclick is very overpowered.
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forever to charge? LOL she takes less than 200 hp to charge what? sitting in backlines clicking heads is not hard, utilising genjis dash + shurikens is far harder, have u even played? its not overpowered and very unforgiving if u fail which is even a challenge for good players.
you dont even have to click heads sometimes, u can just get someone down to a bit more than half and that charges u up to 60 and its a no headshot one shot combo LIKE GENJI
Try to hit squshie with that cringe projectile sitting in backline then we talk, ok?
I guess 180 turn and rightclick in general direction up close takes too much skill, that is why heās getting nerfed damage and ammo, F logic.
Even if you miss like 2-3 volleys you are still out of your enemy fov, thx for doublejump and shooter prior, when your enemy sees you dashing in you are actually already hit him from behind couple times with rightclick.
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try to hit someone with shurikens consistently then talk,
there is a reason genji is one of the hardest heroes to play, also if ur dying to that u actually have a skill issue LOL
he was hardest to play in ow1, now he got free value and almost no counterplay, that is why he nerfed, and I bet it is not his only nerfs.
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bro what? he still is the hardest to play, just say you want to no brain hitscan long range and be done with it bro, i dont need ur baseless arguments of no value in here.
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Sincerely said by someone who has never pulled it off outside of QP.
Also said by someone who has never consistently done it. Do that against moving targets in masters. Youāll never get it even 10% of the time and guess whatāll happen? You fail to secure the kill, youāre dead. You lose the fight.
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zarya sombra having common sense aim? Awareness? Being an actual player? Genji can be countered pretty easily. By just being a better player he will ALWAYS dominant lower Ello no matter what. thatās never going to change these changes will ABSOLUTELY kill the character in high Ello again.
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Agree with original posterā¦ When I dive with genji, i usually bank on the fact that they wont be able to aim at me up close. But there were just as many instances where the dive targetās aim was good and i kept getting shut down. So i dont see genji as a problem. Just readjust positioning, or practice aim(?)
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I see 18% accuracy on shurikens from shadder2k, and 28% accuracy from necros, both of them GM, so, what consistency are you talking about? Genji do not require aim. Low skill, high reward tho (just in terms of aiming)
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are you actually serious? that % is useless when talking about characters who have multiple bullets/projectiles fired in one click, that is all the more reason why he shouldnt be nerfed, you will never hit a perfect three shuriken headshot unless a target is moving predictably and also is in close range which again IS YOUR FAULT FOR GETTING IN THAT PLACE AND BEING OUT OF POSITION, try hitting three shurikens from both long range and close range 60% or even 80% of the time and come back to me. the fact that even the best players struggle to aim with him is a sign that he shouldnt be nerfed, its like asking a reaper main to get 100% accuracy from a target thats 20 meters away, HE CANT you know why? because his spread is literally bigger than their hitbox at that range, please, just accept that when u die from a genji ur just bad at the game, genji is literally the most hardest character to play and gets countered so easily, if you actually consistently struggle with any genji at any skill level you have an extreme skill issue. if genji didnt require aim then most people who are playing him would get gm, spoiler alert, most genjis which are bots that cant aim for their life cant hit jack even though he apparently ādoesnt require aimā are bronze to plat. characters like mcree,widow,soldier have hit scan, you do not need to predict or anticipate where your enemy is gonna be, you can aim and shoot, they are the characters where the % of accuracy tells how good a player is, not genji and not hanzo or any projectile hero, their % of accuracy should be irrelevant to you because there is not a single human on earth that can accurately predict where someone is gonna go 80 or even 60 or even 50% of the time, any dive character is high risk high reward what are you on? it is long range hit scan that are fully low skill high reward, it is why you cant kill a genji in backlines, cause you suck and cant aim.
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whoever cant play genji after a tiny nerfā¦shouldnāt be playing genjiā¦
if the leaks are true, this is the hardest nerf in overwatch history, it is quite literally a nerf to the ground.
not a tiny nerf
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