Sometimes it’s a curse to know so intimately the shortcomings of your team 
HOWEVER, I’ve had pretty good success strategizing in comp. You’re in a good position to see the lynchpin of the enemy team and if your team listens to you, the game often turns around (or at least gets a little better). Recently, I’ve found myself often going “if we all collapse on the tracer we win” lmao and it does swing things sometimes.
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I try to ping enemies as often as possible on weaver and mercy. That is such underrated value, I dont see them do that often enough in my games.
Especially Mercy. Like, youre just holding a beam, its not hard to ping enemies while doing that.
I looove pinging. I need to fiddle with the settings on it, though. I try to ping my ability cds, but it’ll ping whatever I’m staring at the instant i hit the button while I’m still trying to ping my grip cd. It’s, like, too touchy or something. I mostly ping my platform and enemies, though, so I guess it’s kind of whatever
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I want Ana deleted and think she was OWs first irreparable mistake. 
I just cited that she’s putting up bad stats in GM for the last month, a lot of that being due to the meta and even said she’d probably swing wildly back in favor if the meta wound up shifting. It hasn’t so Ana’s gonna stay a weaker pick than Lucio/Moira/Kiri ect.
This is fine, her counters are meta and she should suck while they’re really good, her near best in slot abilities can’t carry her if she’s playing respawn simulator.
So after playing for a while, here’s my thoughts.
Lucio, Kiriko, and Moira are still top dogs. They have the tools to deal with the Tracer centric dive meta. You’ll probably feel the Lucio damage nerf, but he’s still good. Moira was nearly unaffected by her nerf.
Baptiste still works on maps with high ground he can retreat too. Avoid using him on flatter maps.
Ana and Zen can work if you can hit shots or have good peel. Game is still very tough for them though.
Brigitte still struggling under a meta she should be good in. She definitely needs changes.
Mercy can work if you have a good dps you can pocket, otherwise avoid. Definitely not her meta.
Illari was showing signs of life, but they nerfed her right back to useless.
Lifeweaver still isn’t good after yet another round of buffs. He can heal tons and be elusive, but that’s not really enough. He still has the critical design flaws that make him subpar in OW2, as he struggles to provide enough damage.
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I’d say Kirkio, Ana and Lúcio for Suzu, Sleep/Antinade and Speed Boost. But i’m not an expert or really that competitively knowledgeable. I thought Brigitte was in a rough spot but I was told like, two days ago by someone that Brig is amazing and doesn’t need any buffs so…
Ana and Kiri are on top. Kiri will always be good so long as Ana is, as she’s the only one who can actually contest her Anti Heal, and Ana’s been Meta Queen for years, at this point; until she gets an actual nerf, she’ll still be top dog.
Lifeweaver, Moira, Iliari, Lucio, Brig and Zen are all solid picks, although are more dependent on the team you’re running. Poke Comps will prefer a Lifeweaver, whilst Brawl Comps will want a Moira or Zen, and so on.
And Mercy? You’re better off playing someone else. Rez is hardly a reason to chose her anymore, and the best DPS in the game right now don’t really benefit from having a Mercy, as they tend to be in the enemy back line rather than your own. Until they decide to look into Mercy, as she is under performing quite a bit, compared to the others, she’s just not really worth running. That’s not to say she can’t work - If you’re running Double Sniper or Poke, you can get some value out of her, and she’s the only Off Support that actually works well with Lifeweaver (This is your daily reminder to not run Lifeweaver & Zen/Lucio/Brig), so there’s an argument to be made there with running her alongside him in a Poke Comp, but she doesn’t provide enough to be worth picking over anyone else.
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Ana is meta in S9? In which game?
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Illari work and is played. Mercy is really alone in the bottom.
The problem is that they are only adjusting the numbers of her abilties/primary and thats not the problem. Ana was never really a “Big number stat go up” hero but more of a like “welp your whole team is antied, u dead” hero if u know what i mean. The core problem to ana is that the has the Longest Stun in the game (by far) and shes the only support with hard cc in her main kit (not ult), also she is completely denying healing for 3.5 sec or so and thats the reason shes broken.
Imo lucio, kiri, moira, bap are the top 4.
This I thought too! I think all supports works right now but it is more who to play to benefit the team. Moira/Mercy is a good combo and works in most ranks!
Well, I still don’t know what the meta will be like in relation to tanks so it’s too early to say (as there have been some significant changes)
so far Lucio, Kiri
Moira and Bap
if you know how to play Illari, Ana, Brig
Weak LW and mercy
Zen I have no idea
I would put mercy up there with the top dogs of support tbh
They did Illari real dirtly ngl.
I’d argue Moira does see less usefulness once you start to get players who know where her fade leads her to. The dps passive screws her kit over harshly (because she can only heal and damage) even though she can cleanse herself from it.
If there’s peel your fine, but that’s the same case with Ana and Zenyatta who have stronger team abilities than her.
Kiriko and Bap are still on the top of the list with Lucio and Moria
The Illari nerf was .05 seconds to her recovery time, which is the cooldown time between shots. Her bar still starts recovering immideatly just you cant shoot a low damage spam shot off for .25 seconds instead of .20 seconds (the line about 1/3rd of the way through the charge bar). Not much of a real nerf to say it makes her useless after they buffed how fast she reaches full charge last season.
Mercy is good if you have someone to pocket, if you try to be heal bot mercy and try to heal your whole team then you are gonna have a bad time. Pick your struggle, either heal bot everyone and lose or pocket just that one dps thats gonna hopefully carry your team. The second you look away they will die so if you want success playing mercy, you gotta pocket your dps.
Goes to show how some people just parrot others opinion and not actually play the game
The top dog is lucio right now with kiriko a close second. Then comes bap and Moira but I’m leaning towards Moira a bit more because of survivability. After these two are zen mercy and brig. Zen needs quite a bit of peel but can still work if you can hit your shots. Brig is decent I would say but not that good. Mercy needs someone to pocket but if you are not in a high rank, she can still work just fine. After this I personally would put illari because she still has kill potential even if it’s low. And at the bottom I would put wifebeater and ana. Wifebeater has fundamental issues related to his design but I think it’s fine to have that kind of character. Ana is struggling because of meta and the fact that her healing is single target. The hp changed also hit her hard because it severely reduced her pick potential. Unless the enemy team magically doesn’t play dive characters, you are better off playing something else