It’s just painful to even finish the match. Especially when they spam I need healing as Ball or dva zooms past them and the tank never turns around.
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Especially against a ball or dva, you really have no need to look back as tank. Ball is one of the easiest characters to screw up if supports if one just learns to play Brig. You can even do it partially on Zen provided you have a high DPS catered team. Provided you have DPS on the team Ana is another option as well.
Similar for DPS. DPS has Sombra who still has an insanely easy hack against ball and incredibly high DPS. You even have very annoying chip damage from bastion/s76. You have a hard to dive, but hard hitting echo.
Dva is harder to survive on a dive since she pumps out so much damage, but that’s why you stop playing the immobile supports like Ana or Zen and play something with an invincibilty to evade her dive like Kiriko or Moira on fade.
Even in the DPS category a Dva trying to dive a reaper is going to have a hard time surviving. Even a Mei is very annoying because she’s back up to 100 DPS that pierces defense matrix and is rather bulky and can instantly slow down her boosters.
There are so many options in the DPS/support category to screw up dive tanks that DPS/ support players are so obstinate about 1tricking like every other role in the game. The game gives you tools to defend yourself. USE THEM.
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This is common of players of all roles. They tunnel-vision to the detriment of all else (including their supports getting eaten alive in the backline.)
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Lol USE THEM. Bad tank = loss sorry u r delusional hope it works out for you.
Bad tanks not using LoS to get healed from supports are a problem. But supports not being able to survive because of tanks not peeling for them is less of an issue now for supports. Mainly because support’s sustain got giga buffed.
It only gets tricky to survive when you’re on brig. Because apparently, brig’s shield have been buggy lately so it doesn’t always work as it should.
Only against tank ults though it seems (hammer and dva bomb seem to be the ones its bugged for)
You must be a very bad dps or support if you can’t make a dva or ball’s life miserable on that role.
Sounds like me on any role sometimes. Sometimes it be like that.
how exactly is the tank supposed to turn around and help you when they are supposed to hold the front line lol
support is the strongest and most impactful role in the game currently, they have more tools at their disposal to carry a match and your complaining the puppet you control doesnt come back and peel for you?
CAMAN (read: come on but in a stupid accent)
Unless this was OQ and you had 2 tanks, I’m not sure what you want the singular tank in RQ to do about you getting dived. It’s not their job to protect you in the backline, you and your support partner have to deal with divers, a dps can help if they can, but expecting the tank to cut clean across the map to peel for you in 5v5 is a little unreasonable. That’s why supports have the strongest passive in the game and why literally every single one of them has an escape ability, skilled or otherwise, at their disposal.
You can swap to Moira if you’re getting consistently dived and can’t aim or otherwise protect yourself. Plenty of options in the support role, friendo, not gonna see much sympathy here, this sounds like a skill issue.
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I’ve had people freak out at me because ONE person ran by me and is trying to 1v4 the team. The team then seems to forget THERE ARE 4 PEOPLE STILL IN FRONT OF ME. If I turn around to try and chase someone, I now have 4 people shooting me in the back.
If 3-4 people can’t handle the ONE person who ran by my shield, we have bigger probl
Plus, if I have a shield up, that means that person is now cut off from any healing, unless the enemy supports dive in with them
I’ll be honest, when I’m 1v4’ing their team, I’m expecting you to handle that hamster.
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More like Supports not positioning themselves correctly to do their primary job.
They’re not, but…
This is true. But it is unlikely that a single Support is going to win against a single Tank, even after they peel and crowd control them.
Yes, it is. The Tank is partly a defender hero.
Yep.
Tanks can’t do everything for you.
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I don’t blame a tank for anything wrong in OW2. The game is broken without two tanks, period.
It’s painful when bad supports don’t understand that they can hold their own against any hero that comes near them and insist on the rest of the team babysitting them.
Tanks don’t need to peel for supports right now. Two supports can easily keep each other alive against a dive.
Considering supports can now stave off most dps (Im talking about the stronger supports like kiriko, illari, bap, etc.) its pretty much a skill issue. Esp when you dont ping the enemy in your los attacking you or have elected to go far away from the team for whatever reason (anas mostly)
There is 1 tank. There is no more offtank to turn around and help peel, that is now the job of the dps, as much as they refuse it. A tank cannot engage the enemy while turning around to chase a Tracer or Sombra, the DPS has to counter pick and stick near the supports if there are flankers. Same goes for an enemy tank like Winston or Wrecking Ball.
This is not OW1, you do not have an off tank to peel any longer, you either have to switch supports accordingly or get it through the head of the DPS that their job is to now peel and not run off doing Call of Duty rogue lone wolf pew pew missions.
Its not their job anymore though. Most dps can’t duel tanks (maybe enough of a dent to push them away for a bit) and many supports have been given a good amount tools to negate such pressures anyways
It 100% is the job of the DPS to peel now that it’s 1/2/2. The dps should only be dueling tanks if it’s a Winston or Wrecking Ball in the backline. Not both, ONE, dps. You don’t need double hitscan/sniper if there’s no Pharah, you don’t need both dps to cover any same range, period. If you have a Sombra or Tracer in the back, let ONE dps hang back and peel for the supports. A Rein, Junker, Ram, etc leaving the front to turn around and chase a Tracer leaves the entire front line wide open. Enemy pushes in on the chaos, squash, fight over.
You do not have the luxury of 2 tanks any longer. DPS need to figure that out as much as supports do. They BOTH have to swap accordingly.