When did GOATS became strong?

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Well yes, that as well.

That would also bring about two questions then:

1: What kind of comp would it take to counter GOATS, and who would it be comprised of.

2: Will the new hero spark another overly-dominant meta, to the same scale of annoyance as GOATS or worse.

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Mercy and Moira are not being played cuz their ULTS are mediocre to save their team of enemy pushes.

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Moira is in one version of GOATS or GOATS as a whole IIRC.

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It will if its a support :expressionless:

I dunno what beats GOATS.

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Well the main things that make GOATS optimal and running are:

1: AoE Heal Stacking
2: High Health Pools
3: Movement speed increase [BOOSTIOOOOOO!!!]

So the comp to counter it would have to comprise of at least some of the following:

1: Tank-Busters
2: Heal Denial [Ana along with potentially the new hero]
3: Movement Speed Denial [CC]

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The dps would most likely be Doomfist and Pharah/Junkrat

Doomfist can ignore barrier while the other Dps can go around them and do quite a lot of Aoe dmg due to the nature of Goats (Which also gives them massive ult charge)

Has for Tanks, most likely Zarya and Rein

Healers, i really dont know, but probably Mercy or Zen would be options

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Nah, the new hero will be a support with synergy with Orisa. Once a support finaly works with her, weā€™ll realize that Orisa is OP, get her hard nerfed, and the new hero will be OP, and then a year later Heā€™ll get nerfs.

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Thatā€™d have to be one crazy healer then.

Most of the time I fight Orisa, sheā€™s an utter joke, almost no challenge at all to take down.

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If Fortify could get the Defense matrix treatment, it would make Orisa considerably better

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Itā€™d have to be done reasonably, as 50% damage reduction + CC Immunity is quite powerful.

If that were to happen, Iā€™d also opt for the movement speed decrease from firing her weapon to be reduced or removed.

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I donā€™t understand how that would help her. Imo fortify is always there when its needed. It feels like the enemy can ignore Orisa.

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The duration would obviously be reduced

Some people have also suggested to give a Speed boost while using it

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It would give her more flexibility and survivability

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Could you explain this part?

What more could i do with fortify other than survive longer?

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Since brigitte was added. It wasnt necessarily because of her to be honest. Itā€™s because of the game now having 2 supports who can passive area heal while damaging at the same time.

So both lucio and brigitte together made goats stronger.

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Mitigate dmg better overall, for example old DM was saved mostly for Ultimates, after its rework it can be used also to mitigate general dmg and save people, etc

Making it a Resource meter, would allow Orisa to make herself immune to a lot of the CC considerably better, and also mitigate strong attacks more reliably

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But isnā€™t that what the shield is for? Fortify is just for emergencies, I donā€™t think more access to it is much of a buff. Couldnā€™t the devs just lower the cooldown?

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But the Barrier sometimes doesnt last much and people can go around it quite easily (the barrier could also use some tweaking too)

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Um yea we did Mercy in her ult and Moira both in her ult and spray and orb.

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Ultimates arenā€™t going to keep an entire team of high health pool targets alive the entire match.

Moira did have burst AoE healing, but it did not have enough uptime or range to keep all the high health targets alive at once.