The only reason I saw what is bad in a role-lock 2/2/2 is only that I can’t switch to DPS or Tanks if they are doing badly on their job. Otherwise I’m fine with it. Also these creative comp is also possible to be done in a 2/2/2 comp.
You see the issue with how things are right now is that people are on roles they play at a lower level than their rank says.
Let’s say those DPS players that are not doing their job are not really DPS players, they are tank or support players that felt like playing DPS that game.
In a role queue system they will quickly drop SR if they continue playing a role that they are not good at.
Eventually they will drop enough to get to their true rank at DPS, and you won’t have to deal with these people anymore.
The issue with how the system is now is that These people can stay at their current rank mostly playing support and tank and when they feel like it, switch to DPS and pretty much soft throw the game because they suck at dps.
Also what you are doing is not really correct either.
I hear this a lot and it gives out a control freak mentality.
judging everybody on your team and then wanting to do their job for them. Thinking you are the problem solver of your team and should be able to take over whatever role you please because you in your head have already evaluated their skill level and think your own is greater.
You want to be judge jury and executioner.
Hopefully in a proper role queue system people will focus on their own role and be the best at it they can, and stop worrying about everybody else and stop trying to do their job for them.
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I am a control freak.
You know that awkward part where you didn’t see your Widowmaker kill feed? It’s not that I think. I know that I can do a much better job than they are. I always look at the kill feed and when only your tanks and your second supports are showing up in the kill feed then I know the team have a problem.
At least when I switch to Symmetra I know I can kill the enemy team, which I already done. I know I can do a better job than them, that’s why I switched. Same goes when I play DPS and see my supports or tanks doing their job very poorly. Which forces me to cover their role.
What do you want me to do when I damage boost the Bastion that can’t kill anything. Dancing?
I never thought this behavior would be a problem at all lol.
It’s actually a huge problem lel.
You are just deciding to take over whatever role you please leaving your team without a healer or tank because you decided to switch over to DPS.
Which is more hurtful to the team than you trying to do someone else’s job.
Trying to convince others in game to take over your healing role or your tanking role because you want to do their DPS jobs, 90% of the time turns into a toxic situation further damaging your teams chance of winning the game.
I would rather have a weak DPS player on my team than losing out on a healer or a tank to add another DPS and potentially leave the team in a worse state.
These are the situations I hope the new system will lessen. I’m not saying all toxic situations will be eliminated but at least it will lessen them.
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When I do that, I try my best and try to get a lot of kills so that my team would switch the comp around back to 2/2/2. If they have any conscience. But still, I’m not going to risk losing just because my team can’t do their job correctly. I know this is not the optimal behaviour, but when I get gold kills or gold healings easily I’d like to rub it in their face if they get toxic over me switching to their current role where they are really bad at.
I’m gonna have to agree with the other guy. Even if you switch and light up the kill feed and go instantly on fire and start carrying. All you’ve done is injected salt into the other players veins and 9/10 times they’ll throw or stay on their pick out of spite. It’s bad for morale.
They shouldn’t have ever allowed switching mid game anyway- I wanna be the first guy to push for that next.
This is just your own bias. I bet you enjoyed the Dive meta right ? Because it required “skill” and other comps like the one you mentioned didn’t ?
If that’s your opinion, fine but don’t shove it down our throat. A lot players think all the existing metas had their ups and downs.
“Cancer comps” is subjective. What you may find cancerous might not be for other people. It’s just different tastes.
Well, at least you’re admitting you’re either blind or haven’t been paying attention.
Why bother since apparently anything that isn’t 2-2-2 is either cancerous or invisible 
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But if you really want to know (and learn something), creative comps are anything that can help you win a game depending on who you are playing against.
If there are two smurf DPS in the other team, you might wanna try 3 healers or 3 tanks.
Sometimes, when your two DPS are tired or not doing well, you can try and sacrifice a tank or a support to add an extra DPS.
You can even go 4 DPS if you feel like the enemy team is doing really bad in terms of damage output or tanking knowledge.
See ? It wasn’t that hard to enlighten you. All it took was a little effort to seeing further than the end of your nose 
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So is 5 healers and 1 DPS.
Insult me instead of trying to prove me wrong- thank you for the ego boost.
You’re already boosting your ego by yourself dude 
! You really thought I was gonna be nice to you when you act haughty and look down on people that like creativity and make it sound like it doesn’t exist ?
Yeah, sure. You’re way better than us and knows everything about the game !
Edit : Your whole thread is an insult to so many people btw.
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There is no creativity and I’m not looking down on anyone. Taking a jab at the notion since again; it does not exist- there has only ever been stacking of health pools/shields/healing. That’s not creative, it’s just abusing no role limits to make the game as of a win as possible and part of the reason these metas form is because the game is entirely objective based.
5 healer 1 tank juggernaut comp.
Slightly more useful than 6 dps I’ll bet.
It’s just your opinion. It’s subjective and doesn’t stand as a fact.
Opinions are opinions, good for you if you believe what you say is true but it’s not to so many people on this game.
It’s not to you- seems most of the forum agrees that “creative comps” is just an excuse made by one tricks and off meta character players.
Most of the forum doesn’t equal everyone in the game… Plus, there are a lot of people on the forums that are against a forced 2-2-2.
Doesn’t matter anyway. It’s on the PTR. Gotta deal with it. Might be the end of the competitive experience for a lot of people though.
People might just come back to buy new skins during seasonal events and don’t play outside of these.
And we might get swallowed by a black hole tomorrow.
Mocking people doesn’t make you look smarter. You might think you’re some sort of Mr. Know it All but you’re actually just obnoxious and conceited.
I know me better than you. Not obnoxious and am a know it all actually.
The most creative comp: Symmetra, Torbjorn, Bastion, Orisa, Mei and one main healer.
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