What we should do with 2-2-2

Role specific SR and a strict 2-2-2, wouldn’t be a functional system in the first place.

So what’s the point of having the extra bonus of it?

I failed to see why it wouldn’t.

Isn’t that the entire season? I specifically said STAGE 3.

Half of the benefit of a 2-2-2 lock is easier balancing. (This is also why so many pro players are in favor of it). This would completely erase that.

That was the same excuse given to force one hero limit, and if anything balance went off the rails right after that.

You’re having a laugh if you think balance was better without hero limits. Like, honestly, that’s just completely and utterly wrong.

Role specific SR and a strict 2-2-2, would kill the game.

So what’s the point of discussing the extra benefits it could offer?

At least at the time oppressive comps were easier to counter.

Or it saves the game.

I never found this to be the case, but I guess everyone’s experiences were different.

I think it’s a bit overly-simplistic to think that the roles are equally difficult to balance.

When roughly 4/5th of all balance patches have to deal with Healers.

Hard to take “large portions of the playerbase quitting” as “saving the game”.

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You’ll also likely want to put some cap on how much the 2-2-2 queue players choose DPS in QP at say 70% of the time.

When the competitive meta becomes static it has a tendency to increase the degree competitive players are non-productive in QP.

no thank you full 222 queue and another anything mode is the solution…

no votes or any other nonsense… you cannot trust this playerbase with anything. you need strict rules so they dont find any hole to abuse the system and ruin games.

I’d argue you need failsafes that 2-2-2 doesn’t provide.

If you get a damage focused healer, two off healers, or two offtanks, you are mostly screwed.

The 2Any-2-2 provides the capability to flex on that.

The 6-Any provides an overflow for the extra DPS. So DPS queue times aren’t a problem.

And the ability to unlock roles allows a safety valve, if the 6-Any is crushing the 2Any-2-2 with a DPS heavy comp. Or if you got 2DPS that can’t/won’t get kills.

…Imma be honest this was mostly a joke thread but I guess discussion is always positive!

no i dont think so…

there was a time when zen and lucio were meta and dominated everything, 2 offhealers are not the problem and in the long run people who play this mode will have to adjust and learn the role fully… like playing main tank and offtank at least on a certain level or they will derank where they can overshadow the lack of main tanking.

also the 6anything has a different queue i dont know what you are talking about…

It’s not that the roles are easier or harder to balance, it’s that enforcing a 2-2-2 cap limits the possibility of runaway synergies (like what caused GOATS). That makes it less likely that a new hero or balance change can suddenly bring a previously dormant set of synergies to the forefront in such a way that it becomes impossible to deal with without completely gutting every character involved to the point that they’re nearly useless outside of said synergy. And even if such a runaway synergy does happen, it’s much easier to deal with.

i wouldnt, the nerfs were fair ot they werent even nerfed at all.

If you get a spider in your car, setting your car on fire is way to never have that problem again.