Because hog hooks you and you auto die.
Read the topic genius. How many times people got to read the same thing before it clicks?
Yeah honestly idc if it isn’t technically a one shot, it’s a one-shot combo at the very least. While there are ways to avoid being one shot by it, there is nothing YOU can do when hooked, only rely on your team to interupt it which happens less often than people like to pretend it does.
dodge
Only McCree has a dodge. Not a valid solution.
Cut the hook length down. Make it short range, like tanks weapons, which are short range.
Just call it a “hook combo” or “instakill combo” or something else with the word combo in it.
Sigma has a similar combo (rock + primary) but there’s plenty of situations when he might still not manage to kill you, therefore better to call it what it is: a combo and not a one-shot. Though I think it’s way easier to whiff the combo as Sig than it is as Hog (unless you are garbage Hog like me who forgot to reload prior hooking).
Personally i call to them one shot combos just because they function the same way. I dont care that it is technically 2 or 3 things, once that hook hits you know your dead.
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One-shot combo, zero to death, etc.
But one-shot is shorter than those and everyone knows what you mean, so no reason to use the others.
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Call it a death combo if you want, but only nerds will get mad if you call it a one-shot.
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Hook combo. You already know what to call it, as evidence by you calling it that.
There is a difference between whatever the hell you’re calling “auto dying” and a one shot.
It’s a one shot even if the first shot puts you into a position where the 2nd is unavoidable. So hogs hook is a one shot.
a combo
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Hog. Just hog. Anything he does can kill you.
Also, just one shot. I classify those as “if you get caught in the sequence, you usually die” if they aren’t snipers like Widow.
So how do you reconcile it in your head when a Hog hooks someone and doesn’t kill them? Not because a Zarya barrier or healing saves them, they just don’t die to the combo. The hook was the 1 shot in your mind, but the hook landed and the character didn’t die, so please hit us with some logic.
okay “possibility to one shot” - is that better queen of the contrarians? in my head - in my head Im wondering how you’ve gotten away with speaking this way for so long.
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I call it spin to death.
Or they’re people who don’t enjoy having to learn a new set of terms and contexts because a specific community reinvents definitions of things using existing terms that mean the opposite of what’s happening.
“One-shot” = something that kills in one shot or hit. Hog’s hook combo is at least three (hook + shot + melee) with loads of time for interruption.
As has been mentioned already, other communities figured this out and have other terminology to use – “touch of death” (ToD) is pretty obvious and somewhat apt here. But even within those, there are parts of the definition that don’t fit here. For instance, a ToD is often the point at which any hit leads to a combo that will kill if the attacker doesn’t screw up. That is, zero agency or ability for the victim or victim’s team to do anything about it. That’s not the case in OW outside of the true one-shots from the likes of Widow, Sojourn, and Hanzo. Or a lucky chunk from Hog’s alt fire. 
But just like “counter”, “meta” and other such things, I fully expect the OW community to continue bastardizing the language until up means down and “gg” means “Overwatch.”
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I mean… I call it a combo, or sometimes I’ll call it a gib. I do distinguish between it and an actual one-shot, because even though it’s tough to do, what Hog does can be interrupted and blocked after he initiates.
Wonder how people would feel about it if he chain reel speed was slower?
What I think I miss the most from OW1 is that you could survive longer as support. Now everyone and their grand mother can one-shot you, throw bombs at you, or smash you to bits. Us support really have it tough at the moment. And in classic Blizzard style the overnerf a hero (read Doomfist) making him crazy difficult to deal with. Well, maybe they’ll get something right in season 3?
Can you show an example of me being a contrarian here in this thread? I’m glad you’re learning new words, but you better come correct.