If you’re going to punish me for winning games by placing me in insane stomps, punish me for leaving those games, why should I bother engaging with those matches? what reason do I have for trying when trying gets you the same as doing nothing? FIX THE MATCHMAKING ALREADY IT IS DOGWATER. Either I get banned for “Gameplay sabotage” or I get banned for leaving too many games, GAMES THAT YOUR MATCHMAKER HAS DECIDED TO TURN IN TO UTTER MISERY FESTS.
And for all the “oh the only problem in all those games is you heh” idiots guess what, I CAN NOT SOLO CARRY AS A SUPPORT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE UNLESS THE ENEMY TEAM IS SO UTTERLY ABYSMAL THAT DROOLING ON MY KEYBOARD WOULD BE ENOUGH TO WIN THE MATCH.
wide groups : should be put in games closer to the rank of the highest level player than the lowest. We should not see Masters/GM/Champ players in gold/plat games just because they are grouped. The result is obvious.
MM Group Matching : solo tank should play against solo tank, and grouped vs. grouped. Being a solo tank vs. tank+support duo or tank+2xsupport in group is often pointless.
Fix hard counters to be soft counters : For me, Orisa is broken against Hog as everything in her kit counters Hog. Such hard counters should not exist and lead to stomps if one tank does not want to swap (again, in QP).
Be quicker to adjust broken duos : move them to higher MMR games quickly. When you get a game with a dps+support duo and the dps has 30+ elims (in QP) and nobody else breaks 10 then quickly rank up the group MMR so they get harder games. So often I get a duo like this on 1 team and a couple games later get them on the other team where the dps stomps again.
Show groups in QP : so we know if we are solos vs a group and can leave before penalties kick in and get a better game.
I also want a solo queue mode. I don’t care if it adds 5-10 mins to my queue time. I shouldn’t have to get a gang together just to have a moderately balanced match but blizzard insists that you slog it as a solo against 3-5 man premades.
Even without going that far, things would be a lot better if solo/grouped were matched by role. It gets trickier with 4-stacks as there won’t be many of those, but for 2 and 3 stacks it should be possible. Almost every game has at least 2 stacks of 2 or 3.
The MM makes some odd choices. I’ve had plenty of games where 1 team has 2 duos and the other are all solo. Why would the MM do that in QP? Put a duo on each team at least. It shows the devs haven’t done any work on groups within the QP MM.
Here’s a thought Billy. Not every match is going to be a win for you, heck, you might not perform well in every match. If you’re going into every match thinking you’re going to win and perform amazing and if you game isn’t going the way you want, it might be a good idea to step away from Online Multiplayer shooters and stick to offline games like Elden Ring, Resident Evil, etc.
The fact that you even posted on the forum about throwing matches because of stomps is like a toddler throwing a temper-tantrum because he can’t get access to the tablet.
Alright pal I guess I should never play any games because I hate losing right? How is it that the matchmaker in overwatch seems custom designed to extract as much misery from you as possible then?
I don’t think I’m going to win every match and don’t want to win every match, but I’d at least like the majority of matches that I join to feel like I have an actual impact and that the dice wasn’t rolled before the map vote screen but here we are. Going on a 5 game win streak where the games are stomps is almost as bad as a 5 game lose streak where you’re the one being stomped.
The Matchmaker has been like this for a long time now but snarky posters like yourself just act like “oh that’s just how it is buster you just gotta play other games squirt!!!” How about the dev team puts more than 5 minutes into making the matches CLOSER. Even in competitive it’s only marginally better and their whole matchmaking philosophy now seems to be speed over quality. If it’s a stomp you’re into the next match faster than if it was a close win/loss so the matchmaker will prioritise player matchups that create these types of matches.
So when I say this I say it from a place of just pessimism that actual close, fun games are a thing of the past. Why bother engaging with the game if it doesn’t respect your engagement? Why bother putting time and money into the game if the matchmaker doesn’t respect your time?
I don’t mind being challenged in matches that’s fine, but when I join a match and my tank runs off into the enemy and gets evaporated or my DPS do nothing to deal with the enemy DPS, or I am playing DPS/Tank and my supports are pocketing the other DPS or the tank why bother? Why bother trying when you’re matched with teammates that refuse to try, against enemies that are more often than not magically linked via some hivemind.
Or I guess I could just add to the growing number of players who gave up even trying to change the game and leave. That really is healthy for an online game long term. People leaving.
Ngl these “mature speeches” and gaslight might have worked 2 years ago, but now more than half the players realize that it’s genuinely a system problem. Not sure how much blizzard is paying you to still act like this and defend the matchmaker but it’s not worth it man.
100K Players and Above from OW3 / OW removing of the 2…
Around 60K Players Now… Using Steam DB and such, with lots of variations mind you! So give or take… a 40K Drop on Steam Alone. NOT INCLUDING CONSOLE, BATTLE.NET And Switch Consoles… Heheheh. Sorry, had to add some humour by throwing out the switch as a random number
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I just feel like some maths needs to be added to this to prove you are right. The whole system needs a hard rework but i doubt they are going to invest into it.
I reckon it’s essentially on hospice. It’s death bed and the higher ups are gonna milk it for all they can and refuse to save it. OW4 won’t fix it and i think they know it. So rather than fix it or go with OW4 the higher ups want their final paychecks and to cash out of OW and let it burn.
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TBH it would kinda explain why they are only doing Kiriko / Juno / Mercy Skins. A Healthy Game can sell you a turd! A dying game will cling onto whatever it can to recover it’s profits. Case in point… Mercy and Repeating Events and then die.
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IMO i don’t see OW making it to 2027 in any meaningful way and it should within theory be dead by 2028 if they can loose 40k Players in just 6 Months. Imagine the next 6… About another at least 10K or more dropping and 2028 should be it’s end date by going off how well it’s faring.
I don’t quite think it’s that dire, it managed to survive from 2020 to around stadium OW2. It definitely has a lot of life in it still especially when all of the competitors kill themselves via even worse incompetence. Rivals only stays as a real opposition to overwatch because of the brand. If it was random no-name characters that game would be as dead as the rest of them.
You are correct. The MM has been bad for a long while. There are many on this forum that would say “MM is fine, you’re talking crazy”. Knowing that you’re going into every match you play and the MM is probably going to be bad, then why do you continue to play this game?? You can’t complain on the forum or in this post talk about “throwing matches” already knowing that the matches could be bad. That is called “Insanity”.
Fans don’t want to admit their game is the problem, not other players, they gave a shoot the messenger mentality.
Denial of hard truths is real, falling in love with the idea of Overwatch rather than thale fame that exists with its flaws.
Throwing is a result of this game’s failures, more than players. Blizzard could design a game that prevented throwing but then they’d give up a little tiny bit if money from griefing, which they won’t do, so they’ll make it your problem.
Blizzard’s own system encourages throwing for progression and fans HATE to admit that.
I had about 4-5 matches during drives I thought were a lost cause and I was avoiding my teammates already, and often I just go Tracer and wait out these matches but I didn’t and we turned the match around and won or at least got a draw, no doubt because I didn’t give up, as corny as it sounds. And because it was for drives, if I’d have lost those matches, I wouldn’t have completed drives which I only did barely.
It is 100% your mindset and determination that will lead to better matches and more wins. Keep raging at the game, the devs, the other players all you want but it’s just you and you alone that controls your success here.
Throwing (and yes, Team 4 can tell when you are) is something that will get you banned and you will lose everything on your account when you do. So, it’s just not worth it.
Take a break if you get tilted; come back and try again later. It’s what I do if I experience a really bad loss that grinds my gears.
See, that’s the problem. No one I know has ever actually been banned for throwing. I’m guessing no one you know has, either. Sure, maybe there’s a story or video out there, but I don’t see any reliable evidence that throwing is ban worthy in any scale worth mentioning.
And since far as I can tell it lives in theory and not in practice, the question remains, why not throw?
Bliz has already ruined every person on your team’s gaming experience by giving you a trash team verses a much better team. So it’s boring snd hence ruined for the other team as well.
But then you start getting banned for leaving a game that blizzard has already ruined the experience for everyone because “you’re ruining the experience for other players”
Because throwing is for losers who don’t have a life outside of the game
If you don’t like the match, just quit. Your team is better off with you quitting than you throwing, you get to leave sooner and do other things, the rest of the lobby also gets to do that, and you clearly already don’t care about either your rank or playing the game so losing and getting banned should be no issue to you.
end throwing a tantrum when you don’t get your way…